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Yup. Here's an EV-caused fire in a parking structure in Delhi, India from back on June 8th.
".. Over a hundred EVs and E-rickshaws gutted..."
I didn't know there was such a thing as an 'E-rickshaw'.
Posted on 12/18/2022 2:30:56 PM PST by Libloather
Multi-storey and underground car parks could collapse under the weight of electric vehicles, engineers have warned.
Electric cars, which are roughly twice as heavy as standard models, could cause ‘catastrophic’ damage, according to the British Parking Association (BPA), which wants local authorities to conduct urgent structural surveys.
Most of the nation’s 6,000 multi-storey and underground facilities were built according to guidance based on the weight of popular cars of 1976, including the Mk 3 Ford Cortina.
But the electric cars currently on the UK market are far bulkier. For instance, the best-selling Tesla Model 3 weighs 2.2 tons fully loaded, making it more than 50 per cent heavier than a 1.4-tonne Cortina.
Structural engineer Chris Whapples, a member of the BPA which represents car-park owners, said: ‘If a vehicle is heavier than the car park was originally designed for, the effects could be catastrophic. We’ve not had an incident yet, but I suspect it is only a matter of time.
‘We have recommended that a loading check is performed on all older car parks. And the industry is responding.’
Electric vehicles are heavier predominantly because of the batteries used to power them, and the reinforced framework and suspension needed to accommodate them.
‘All the internal components make these batteries very, very heavy,’ said Mr Whapples. ‘Nowadays, the battery forms the underfloor of most EVs. It’s contained over virtually the entire footprint of the vehicle, from axle to axle.’
Electric cars have soared in popularity in recent years. Today there are an estimated 620,000 on the road in the UK, and 440,000 plug-in hybrids which use both petrol and electric.
One in ten new cars sold in 2021 was electric, while a further seven per cent were hybrid.
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I would expect that EVs that use a superior battery tech that makes them more effect and less heavy is what is needed before people want to embrace them fully. This current gen is proves that it can be done but it has serious flaws that need to get worked out and that will likely require a different tech basis. And then they will become a realistic solution.
An engine and radiator weigh much less than an EV battery. In overall weight EVs of all sizes outweigh comparable ECE vehicles by around 500-800 pounds. Road wear isn’t that different, the real problem is safety. When a heavier EV hits a comparable ICE vehicle, the ICE vehicle is in trouble, that extra weight is dangerous to the lighter vehicle.
“”Travel, except in your local village, will be reserved for the elite that rule over us.””
What they will never teach in regular American government schools is the Soviet internal passport system (papers), and how it was used to control and restrict most people. In the USSR, one needed ‘papers’ to travel anywhere outside of the local, county-size area. Bus, train, bicycle, walking. If you did not have your ‘papers’ you remained in the small area. Some of the dirty LARGE secret is they did not issue ‘papers’ to over 80% of the populace. Those who were fortunate enough to have them could lose the privilege at any time, for any reason. Or, for no reason at all. To maintain the internal terror, they would make examples of perfectly innocent people. If you complained, off to the Gulag.
The DemocRATS envied this control, and would love to institute it here.
I'm sure that China thought all this out before they issued orders to the White House to push EVs.
Challenger Hellcat weighs 400-800lbs more than a Tesla model 3
Yes, the EV batteries are heavy, I undestand that.
My question is how heavy is an EV electric motor, plus associated equipment, as compared to the weight of a complete IC engine system. An EV motor must be heavy but is it as heavy as a gasoline engine? Motors no doubt come in varying sizes, as do engine blocks. I also assume each type of vehicle will have a transmission and/or a transaxle, etc.
I searched, all responses refer to battery weight, which are heavy as we know.
‘’a retarded Swedish teenager’’.
As apt a description of that vicious little snot nose as I’ve ever seen.
That kid needs to be horsewhipped.
I believe what CFW is trying to point
out, is a total ICE for EV swap of
vehicles is not sustainable and therefore
will deprive those in rural areas of the
necessary energy to charge their vehicles
to the ranges they need to travel.
Our infrastructure is wholly inadequate
and if updated, even then, there won’t
be enough power to go around. Thereby,
limiting travel. Charging your EV from
a battery bank energized by solar panels
takes a couple days of bright sunshine.
Cloud cover and lower temps reduce that
charging time even more, especially when
your house demands heat and lights relying
on those panels. People don’t care too
much for freezing to death for the sake
of keeping your EV charged up and ready.
Wether it’s the governments intention
to limit our travels or not, your
traveling will be limited.
I parked in an older 5 level parking deck for work. Public parking was on the top floor and rented spaces below. Due to the age of the building, engineers decided to move public parking to the ground floor to reduce vibration stress, etc. I believe they also reduced the number of rental hang tags because if I came in late, the top floor was mostly empty.
There are so many factors to consider that it’s not meaningful to compare the weights of individual components. What matters is the actual weight of the complete vehicle. Making that comparison more complicated is that not all EVs have comparable ICE models (same general size and design).
One model that comes to mind is the ICE VW Golf and the outwardly identical e-Golf (no longer made).
The e-Golf outweighed its ICE version by about 450 pounds (a 15% increase).
I would imagine that many car park businesses will disallow electric cars soon. Would have already, except the cultists would object loudly.
The grid will get figured out in the next 10 years.
Siemens just came out with a low cost home charger that by passes the homes service panel so homeowners do not have to $$$ upgrade it. The charger is installed on the outside meter. You pull off the meter head, install the adapter and plug back in the meter head, drill a hole in the wall and run the cable to the charging spot inside the garage.
INstaslled in less than an hour for most homes.
Ev’s will become successfull due to innovations like these and these new innovations are happening everyday.
The fires that ensues
Cool. It looks like it will have to be installed by the utility company or one of their contractors. I've read a few articles about it, and it appears to me a mini fuse panel is also installed between the meter head and the charging unit. It appears to be vaporware until early next year. I haven't seen a price yet, but there are a few utility companies that have given it the green light.
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Yup. Here's an EV-caused fire in a parking structure in Delhi, India from back on June 8th.
".. Over a hundred EVs and E-rickshaws gutted..."
I didn't know there was such a thing as an 'E-rickshaw'.
Now that’s a fire to remember no EV’s.
As bad as our power grid is here in LA manual operated rickshaws will be the in thing.
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