What say ye; Prot??
Dost thou still continue to stretch the TRUTH??
Posted on 11/12/2022 7:44:47 AM PST by lowbridge
Another point left out is that all believers are under attacks from the evil spirits in rebellion to God.
And nothing (except lazy thinking) requires that the devil use the same attack on two different people, churches, or denominations.
His post #258 replied to my #244, saying
"I don't care what people THINK could or could not have happened.
If it is not recorded, then it is SPECULATION."
He was replying to my question in #244
"Do you think Joseph of Arimathea took the body from the cross and put it in the tomb straight away, without letting Mary hold the body of her Son?"
You said in post #220: "No one has said His mother was not allowed to touch or mourn, or even following close by when He was taken to the tomb. "
So you appear to agree that Mary held the body of Jesus.
When you mention it, Elsie is silent.
When I mention it, he demands proof, calling it speculation.
I call that inconsistent; I allowed him an out a few posts later, that it was trolling, or bombast, or talking without thinking.
Tell me if this verbatim quote by Elsie from post #260 is a lie, or speculation. Or, as I have said before, trolling.
Remember, by his own definition in post #258, if it's not recorded, it's speculation.
Then Thomas licked his fingers and got a MUCH better blessing than merely drinking some wine of the eucharist.
I'm not bitter. I'm half bored, half bemused.
True to form you try assigning to my post what is not in the post: “So you appear to agree that Mary held the body of Jesus.” As Elsie has explained to you, you are speculating. My post was worded in such a way that it is not speculation.
LOL!
“Laugh it up, fuzzball.” LOL ... have a nice evening.
Can you not just ask the question without putting someone through watching and hearing Singer? Why the punishment?
That’s cool. Have a pleasant night!
What say ye; Prot??
Dost thou still continue to stretch the TRUTH??
Sure you can see the same method used here; right?
It is EXACTLY like a lot of Catholic teachings.
Mary promise #5.
The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
Now you seem to be channeling the spirit that drives Kamala to cackle.
Nope.
I read much faster than people talk, as I read your question to me and then I answered it.
Good luck in your quest.
...and I thank you for your faint praise.
Do you think Joseph of Arimathea took the body from the cross and put it in the tomb straight away, without letting Mary hold the body of her Son?
You think that because you want to think that, not because of any evidence.
Even one of your fellow Catholic haters said verbatim that “No one has said His mother was not allowed to touch or mourn, or even following close by when He was taken to the tomb.”
I'm not a "Catholic hater". I hate Catholicism, with cause.
I only embrace what someone else says if there is solid evidence, not speculation or implication.
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I'd like to say, "Nice try." But it wasn't.
1 Peter 4:4 kjv
Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:
The evidence of common humanity. Would you deny a grieving mother the chance to say goodbye to her son after she watched him being tortured to death in public?
I'm not a "Catholic hater". I hate Catholicism, with cause.
You admit the hate. And the following sentences indicated the reason is a subtle form of pride.
I only embrace what someone else says if there is solid evidence, not speculation or implication.
Thereby contradicting the words of Jesus to Thomas, who evinced your exact attitude, even to the point of doubting the other Apostles' firsthand accounts of the Resurrection "Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe." As well as the "Faith chapter" in Hebrews, where it speaks of those who died without ever having received what was promised. If it never happens, you don't have "solid evidence." Unless of course you start playing sophistry with definitions.
Post #206 said “(The last decade on Fridays one recalls Jesus being nailed to the cross, each of the phrases He said on the Cross, His being pierced with a spear, and His body being handed over to His Mother.)"
You said in post #220: "No one has said His mother was not allowed to touch or mourn, or even following close by when He was taken to the tomb. "
Elsie claimed in post #258 "I don't care what people THINK could or could not have happened. If it is not recorded, then it is SPECULATION."
You're playing tag team dishonest word games.
To the point you insult a grieving Mother holding her Son after watching Him be tortured to death in public. As Nicodemus said to her, "And your own soul a Sword shall pierce."
...and Mary was a practicing Jew, then:
“Whoever touches the dead body of any person shall be unclean seven days. He shall cleanse himself with the water on the third day and on the seventh day, and so be clean. But if he does not cleanse himself on the third day and on the seventh day, he will not become clean. Whoever touches a dead person, the body of anyone who has died, and does not cleanse himself, defiles the tabernacle of the LORD, and that person shall be cut off from Israel; because the water for impurity was not thrown on him, he shall be unclean. His uncleanness is still on him."
Numbers 19:11-13
So, was Mary unclean on Resurrection Day?
...just something to ponder.
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