Posted on 11/12/2022 7:44:47 AM PST by lowbridge
The famous Jewish actor and humorist Gad Elmaleh, beloved in France, announced his conversion to the Catholic faith, a process in which he says the Virgin Mary played a crucial role.
Elmaleh, 51, was the partner of Charlotte Casiraghi, the daughter of Princess Caroline of Monaco, with whom they have a son named Rafael.
His conversion to Catholicism is depicted in his new film, “Reste un peu,” (“Stay a while”).
The Jewish actor, who according to the Spanish newspaper El Mundo will take the name of Jean-Marie when he is baptized, has studied theology in Paris, and in 2019 he participated in a musical in London about St. Bernadette Soubirous, the visionary who saw Our Lady of Lourdes.
Elmaleh told the French newspaper Le Figaro that “the Virgin Mary is my most beautiful love” and expressed his surprise that in France the “vast majority of Catholics don’t live their faith openly.”
As a child, he recounted in the interview, he entered a church and saw an image of the Mother of God.
“It wasn’t a vision, just a simple statue, but I was petrified. I began to cry and hid for fear of being discovered by my family, for fear of curses and superstition. I kept it a secret for my entire childhood,” he recalled.
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Thanks, Elsie.
I didn’t find that through Google, but by reading the late Francis Schaeffer (author of “How Shall We Than Live?”)
Concur with most of what you say.
You’re simply wrong.
Do you think Joseph of Arimathea took the body from the cross and put it in the tomb straight away, without letting Mary hold the body of her Son?
Even one of your fellow Catholic haters said verbatim that “No one has said His mother was not allowed to touch or mourn, or even following close by when He was taken to the tomb.”
Post #220.
When they took Jesus down, somewhere between there and the entombing, they let Mary touch & hold the body.
Common sense; even one of your fellow Catholic haters in post 220 said verbatim “No one has said His mother was not allowed to touch or mourn, or even following close by when He was taken to the tomb.
Your desperation to manufacture strawmen over things you don’t know anything about, is palpable.
This is known as conflation.
Ya got me laughing!!
People back then didn’t know that the nailed hands were incapable of supporting the body during crucifixion.
Incidentally, if you want to get super hissy-fit about it, why did Jesus say to Thomas, “behold my hands”
But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
The other disciples therefore said unto him, “We have seen the Lord.” But he said unto them, “Except I shall see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into His side, I will not believe.” And after eight days again His disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said,
“Peace be unto you.”
Then saith He to Thomas,
“Reach hither thy finger, and behold My hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into My side: and be not faithless, but believing.”
And Thomas answered and said unto him, “My Lord and my God.” Jesus saith unto him,
“Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
John 20:24-29
Source: https://shiloahbaptistchurch.com/2022/11/09/be-not-faithless-but-believing/
See, I didn’t even use a “Catholic” source.
And if you poke around on (say) BibleHub.com, I don’t see anything that indicates the word hands meant “hand and/or wrist”.
For example looking at all uses of the word translated “hand” in that verse:
https://biblehub.com/greek/cheiras_5495.htm
Why do you say the nail prints are in the wrists?
BTW, I am not a hater of Catholics. I am vehemently opposed to the religion of Catholicism since it is more pagan than Christian.
BTW, do you know what Jesus was pointing to when He told His disciples in John 16 that the work of the Holy Spirit would be to convict the world of Sin, Righteousness, and Judgment? It will surprise me if you comprehend what Jesus was teaching there, since your religion is so focused upon the deeds of the flesh rather than the life of the spirit.
The stains on the Shroud of Turin show the wouynds were in the wrist not in the palms. I happen to believe that God preserved the Shroud as His receipt to us for the resurrection.
So now a Catholic relic overrides the written Word of God?
One last point: DO NOT ACCEPT the mark when commanded to you, even if the command comes from an image you think is Mary the Mother of Jesus.
I went to a standard online Bible translation/commentary page, and it gave no indication of that on a first-level search.
So I went with the English translation, even though it had long been my supposition that "hands" in the languages of the day might not map exactly to the english word "hand".
(Source: high school French class where I first learned that not every English phrase has an exact foreign translation, and that even words such as "love" don't map exactly. And then applying that to the Greek storge, eros, agape, philios from C.S. Lewis's The Four Loves.)
I'm not trying to support any dogma; as I'm aware of no absolute declaration that the nails went through the hands.
I agree completely about the genuineness of the Shroud, but that is on scientific grounds, rather than "look it's a relic and the Hierarchy says I must worship like an ignorant peasant!" -- I only found out about the Shroud after I became Catholic.
There were a number of Shroud Threads 10-12 years ago on FR and I was active in them.
...but I don't presume to know *why* He left it around in that condition.
For your question, it doesn't even make sense to me. Many of the Catholic Saints when they went to their superiors and were told to keep quiet about their devotional life/revelations, went to pray about it and were told directly by HIM to obey their superiors, for it was God who had set the superiors over them. If you read some of their autobiographies (which after many years their superiors ordered them to write for the edification of others), you will find an intense personal relationship with Jesus. As opposed to blind slavish reliance on rote formula as you seem to imply.
I will not stick my nose in other people's business to debate or declare that it must have been Jesus speaking to them OR the Holy Spirit speaking to them exclusively; there are enough examples of both throughout the history of Christianity.
No problem on either one.
But since you tried specious tit-for-tat, I thought I send some back your way to see how you reacted.
Sure enough, you melted down like a liberal snowflake.
Stop getting carried away with your own rhetoric.
...we don’t even know yet that we are in the end times, where the Mark will be offered/forced; for that matter, the Protestants can’t even all agree on pre-, mid- or post-Tribulation rapture, and they are all arguing from Scripture, supposedly.
And I’ll bet you checked elsewhere to see if it was so.
Can be said of Prots and Catholics, too.
No; because of the context in which he presented it, I took his word for it.
Have you ever heard of Schaeffer? He was Presbyterian.
I don't care what people THINK could or could not have happened.
If it is not recorded, then it is SPECULATION.
Prove it.
Using evidence - not 'common' sense.
Your desperation to manufacture strawmen over things you don’t know anything about, is palpable.
Words escape me.
Then Thomas licked his fingers and got a MUCH better blessing than merely drinking some wine of the eucharist.
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