Posted on 10/07/2022 5:30:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame co-founder Jann Wenner said Foreigner and Styx have never even been considered for induction.
Wenner, who founded Rolling Stone magazine, added that bands from the same era, including REO Speedwagon and Boston, have also never been discussed by those tasked with choosing inductees.
In a new episode of the WTF podcast, host Marc Maron asked, “Are there bands – and I know you’ve been accused of this before – are there bands you will not, you know, indulge at all? ... There’s been talk of you maybe stifling some people’s membership into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame that feel like they deserve it.”
Wenner replied, “There is talk of that, but I don’t control that. I’m not on the nominating committee.” Asked specifically about Foreigner, he said, “Nothing against Foreigner – in fact, I was very good friends with Mick Jones … but, you know, Foreigner’s name has never come up in a nominating committee to be nominated.”
Maron also asked about REO Speedwagon, Boston and Styx, but Wenner said none of them had been mentioned either. “No, that whole era, it doesn’t come up,” he noted. “I grew up in that era, I went to high school in that era,” Maron replied. “Well, you’re not gonna get in the Hall of Fame either!” Wenner joked. He went on to cite another example: “Bon Jovi – it took years for him to get in.”
Elsewhere in the episode, Wenner reflected on Almost Famous, the 2000 movie written by Cameron Crowe based on the director and writer's experience of being commissioned to write for Rolling Stone at a young age. “I always think of it as a love letter at Rolling Stone and to those days, and to who we all were,” he said.
"That's what Rolling Stone reporters did, more or less: They’d go out and hang out on the road for a while, hang with the band, get into it because they love the band," Wenner explained. "It was a true story and a true story about Cameron."
It kind of reminded me of an early Ornette Coleman record.
At this point, most 70s rock sounds more or less the same. Making precise decisions, saying this is good and that sucks, seems pointless.
Hilarious! Rush always seemed to do their own thing....especially Peart.
Gary Numans new stuff is great. He evolved.
Corporate Rock.
Zappa was right, in the 70s the hippies became the A&R guys, and thought they knew best what would sell, as opposed to the old guys with the cigars in the 60s who would be willing to take a chance on something even if they didn’t “get it.”
Oooo! The Wayback Machine to 2014! *SNORT*
I’ll GIVE you Boston & REO and RAISE you a, Taylor Dane. Ha!
OMG! I just saw that she’s doing those Disco Cruise Ship trips! WhoTF was her Manager? (Probably her EX-husband, LOL!) Her voice was GOLD! GOLD, Jerry! Saw her at the Marriott in Green Bay, WI when I was there for a Packer game. She. Was. Awesome!
*Heart* *Heart* *Heart*
However, what record collection IS complete without ‘More Than a Feeling’ and ‘Riding The Storm Out?’ (Waitin’ for the fallout - Thanks, Brandon!)
And if anyone riffs on, ‘Kansas’ I will find you and I will mess you up!
No Styx and no Foreigner at our next throw down, Laz. Rules is rules. And I make the rules. :)
I can accept that none of those bands are getting in, but Bon Jovi? As the Big Guy would say, come on, man!
70s Heart was great, 80s Heart, not so much.
“But my favorite artist is this Ice JJ Fish.”
What in the hell did I just hear? And why didn’t someone call that poor kid some paramedics or something?
He played with Nine Inch Nails a few times.
Gary was thrilled to be in front of such a large audience, and Trent was thrilled to have one of the forerunners of NIN's music come to perform with them.
And all the musicians playing were Trent's crew.
I'm just thrilled that Ice JJ Fish found a deaf girlfriend.
And in this Kansas video, the video producer said "How much of a redhead can you be?", and Robby Steinhard replied, "Yes."
Ornette was a Jazz Sax Man. The type of jazz he performed was supposed to use dischord and/or disjointed phrasings based on the melody. I suspect even Miles Davis was influenced by him.
From what I briefly listened to, The Shaggs were vocal stylists of their own making. Esthetically, I personally find it easier to enjoy music like Ornette’s vs The Shaggs.
Gentle Giant (Progressive Brit group; 70’s) were vocal stylists too.
Saw Gary Newman live this summer at a small hall in Detroit.
He was really good. It was all his new stuff.
He did “Cars” unenthusiastically.
Well, to be fair, how many thousands of times has he performed it?
Also, "Cars" is kinda SUPPOSED to be done in a flat voice.
Uhh, I don’t think Miles was a fan:
Miles Davis’s reaction: “Hell, just listen to what he writes and how he plays. If you’re talking psychologically, the man’s all screwed up inside.” Years later, Ornette told record producer/writer John Snyder that one night during the Five Spot gig, Max Roach punched him in the mouth, then showed up at 4 o’clock the next morning in front of his apartment building, hollering “I know you’re up there, mother_______! Come down here and I’ll kick your ass!”
LOL, kind of like how Radiohead does "Creep".
I had Boston’s first 3 albums. They were a popular band back then.
The Shaggs have had a huge revival. They are getting fame they NEVER got in their prime.
It's weird but if you listen to them for a while, the terrible technique they embraced actually becomes oddly attractive.
Like looking at a car accident while you are driving on the highway.
Radiohead HATES “Creep”.
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