Posted on 10/04/2022 6:49:39 AM PDT by MtnClimber
A Bloomberg TV host pushed back against Columbia University economist Jeffrey Sachs on Monday when he suggested that the U.S. and Poland are probably behind the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline.
"A lot of the world is watching these events in horror," Sachs said. "They view this as a horrible clash between Russia and the U.S. They don't see this, as we do in the media, as an unprovoked attack by Russia on Ukraine."
"Most of the world doesn't see it the way we describe it. Most of the world is just terrified right now, frankly," he added.
"The European economy is getting hammered by the sudden cutoff of energy. And now to make it definitive, the destruction of the Nord Stream Pipeline (which I would bet was a U.S. action, perhaps U.S. and Poland). That is speculation."
Sachs said: "I know it runs counter to our narrative, you're not allowed to say these things in the West, but the fact of the matter is all over the world when I talk to people, they think the U.S. did it. Even reporters on our papers that are involved tell me 'of course' [the U.S. did it], but it doesn't show up in our media."
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JEFFREY SACHS: Well, first, there is direct radar evidence that U.S. military helicopters that are normally based in Gdansk were circling over this area. We also had the threat from the U.S. [President Biden] earlier this year that "one way or another we are going to end Nord Stream."
We also had a remarkable statement from Sec. Blinken last Friday in a press conference where he said "this is also a tremendous opportunity." That's a strange way to talk if you're worried about piracy on international infrastructure of vital significance.
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Didn't Norway just open a new pipeline to the rest of Europe? Blow up the Russian pipeline and get the US and the once and future USSR pointing at each other. Norway wins!
But once the position is staked out, they're willing to risk their own destruction and, worse, mine rather than admit the obvious.
More and more Lefties like Sachs are becoming favorites of “Conservatives” here on FreeRep and elsewwhere:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Sachs
In June there was an explosion at the Freeport LNG terminal in Texas. The EPA has been hampering repair activity and the repair timeline has been extended from a 3-week estimate to the current estimate of November. There has been little in the news about this.
Cold weather will certainly be upon Europe by November.
True
Americans are poorly informed and largely stupid
Lol
Yep that’s why the United States threatened to blow it up even before the special military operation began
Nordstream II was never operating awaiting permit to open
Nordstream I was empty but pressurized having already been shut off by Putin
So I’m sure one morning he woke up after a night feasting on Ukrainian babies roasted on a spit and a bit of vodka and said “ shit I’ll just blow the damn thing up”
It being his single biggest asset of leverage over the west notwithstanding
We have a loud some obviously paid cadre here who believe the media
They even lost daily beast and the nation and npr now
Acolytes of the same media most of us know lies
Excellent post
It’s militarily the lowest this forum has ever gone
And we’ve had some gullies
It’s russias pipeline ownership wise
At least 51% via Gazprom
And the first one was operating but Putin had shut it off
Second has never run yet
When is congress going to impeach Biden for attempting to start a nuclear war with Russia?
Why is Mitch McConnell approving billions of dollars for weapons for Ukraine when their leader does not agree to make any peace efforts?
Knocking out the pipeline was decided even before the invasion so the administration probably had to follow through but I’m not sure it will have much effect at this point. Germany has alternative energy strategies and Russia has alternative markets.
Zero transit fees, also.
Hahaha
I’m sure many are.
Like here in the US.
1. The left owns/controls the news media.
2. They own Hollywood, the arts and entertainment (music).
3. They also have a strangle hold on education.
They have an incredible influence on “perceptions”.
You can have North Korea firing missiles over Japan, Afghanistan falling to the Taliban, a recession, inflation, a misguided and needless war in Ukraine, we can be failing in Ukraine... You can have the DOJ be a biased player acting on behalf of one party... Europe can be facing serious energy problems, the middle East can be going backwards (Israel security issues), Iran gaining power, a Russian-Chinese alliance forming, sanctions against Russia may have backfired with MOST of the world giving us the middle finger (including Mexico and Brazil in the Americas)...
And the news, TV, music, late night comedy shows, paint it how?
Western MSM today is no kidding (((worse))) than the Soviet era state run propoganda! The DDR had better reporting than this crap we are fed.
But it has traction with a lot of folks. It does shape perceptions.
Hahaha
I’m sure many are.
Like here in the US.
1. The left owns/controls the news media.
2. They own Hollywood, the arts and entertainment (music).
3. They also have a strangle hold on education.
They have an incredible influence on “perceptions”.
You can have North Korea firing missiles over Japan, Afghanistan falling to the Taliban, a recession, inflation, a misguided and needless war in Ukraine, we can be failing in Ukraine... You can have the DOJ be a biased player acting on behalf of one party... Europe can be facing serious energy problems, the middle East can be going backwards (Israel security issues), Iran gaining power, a Russian-Chinese alliance forming, sanctions against Russia may have backfired with MOST of the world giving us the middle finger (including Mexico and Brazil in the Americas)...
And the news, TV, music, late night comedy shows, paint it how?
Western MSM today is no kidding (((worse))) than the Soviet era state run propoganda! The DDR had better reporting than this crap we are fed.
But it has traction with a lot of folks. It does shape perceptions.
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