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I have been thinking about this passage a lot lately. How much the progressive groupthink is destroying our country. Reading through each car on that train and how Rand conscribes them to death. How much she wants that ideology to perish forever.

But, but is she trying to tell us something more than just death of the ideology? It she telling us that people cannot turn away from it? Maybe. The thought chills me to the bone, but maybe she was telling us something way more than we care to admit.

Consider liberals today. We often admire their lock-step mindset. Even when faced with truth and facts, they'll not change their mind or heart. We have entire culture to turn around, Rand seems to tell us we cannot and that death is their only fate.

While I know this thread will go off the 'rails' into some of Rand's real life perspectives, I hope it doesn't. My thoughts are not focused on her personally, but on what was being conveyed in this scene as it relates to today.

Are we already in the tunnel?

Is the only way to let it/them all die?

Can people of this mindset be saved from this fate?

1 posted on 09/30/2022 3:44:58 AM PDT by EBH
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Are we already in the tunnel? Yes

Is the only way to let it/them all die? Yes

Can people of this mindset be saved from this fate? Only Jesus Christ can open their eyes.


2 posted on 09/30/2022 3:53:09 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (...if my people, who are called by my name...)
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No. You cannot help people who don’t want help.
Especially if they are mentally ill.


3 posted on 09/30/2022 3:53:49 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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Yeah. I really think it’s over for this country. We may be able to rebuild a Second Republic of the United States but it will not consist of 50 states, it will not be born without bloodshed, and it will not exist in my lifetime. The Do-Gooders have thrown away the best thing mankind has ever built.


4 posted on 09/30/2022 3:58:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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I am not sure that Rand even knew how much she understood. She certainly understood human nature and how it is twisted to support Communism.

The Democrats use this thinking as an instruction manual.

Sadly, Rand’s only “solution” is to apply force and kill them. She lacked morality, but, in the end, may be right.


8 posted on 09/30/2022 4:04:28 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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The man in Bedroom H, Car No. 5, was a businessman who had acquired his business, an ore mine, with the help of a government loan, under the Equalization of Opportunity Bill.

Well, if he paid it back, I'd save him. But the rest? Welcome to the tunnel, scumbags.

16 posted on 09/30/2022 4:26:02 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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We make choices. And choices made in ignorance or stupidity will one day come back to annoy us or kill us. If critical mass in a nation operates that way, the nation is doomed.

My understanding of Rand was that she wanted people to continually learn and apply the objective knowledge acquired in productive pursuits so that one could live and even thrive.

She understood that man not only works. But creates and even gives selflessly. But it’s all on you. They are your decisions to make. Enjoy your rewards for good decisions. Don’t blame others for your bad ones.

She would not stand in the way of charitable giving, for example. She would admonish givers to know to whom and what causes they are giving to with a full understanding of how their gifts would be used. The same for investing money in a business.

Her favorite holiday was Christmas. Not because she was a Christian. (She wasn’t.) But because she saw in it a joyous celebration of giving to others out of the bounty of one’s own labor. Giving gifts out of good will because you want to and because you can afford to. Good decisions and hard work have paid off and now we’re going to enjoy it, too, so to speak.


17 posted on 09/30/2022 4:33:15 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Bkmk


20 posted on 09/30/2022 4:54:31 AM PDT by waterhill (Resist)
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Are we already in the tunnel?

Is the only way to let it/them all die?

Can people of this mindset be saved from this fate?

Yes, N/A, No.

Objectivism implies it is not within our ability to 'let it/them all die' any more than to save them from their fate.

A=A

21 posted on 09/30/2022 5:02:29 AM PDT by whodathunkit (A=A)
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You cannot argue with a liberal.

They are smug in their arrogance and self-righteous indignation, that you are an ignorant Cretan and must be ignored, destroyed or imprisoned for your useless, antiquated and selfish ideas..........................


23 posted on 09/30/2022 5:49:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Now you’ve gone and done it! I have to read the book again.
For the 4th time!


24 posted on 09/30/2022 6:00:27 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: EBH; All

Post; comments BUMP!


26 posted on 09/30/2022 6:05:03 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Back to the top.


48 posted on 09/30/2022 8:50:59 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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Thank you for posting this. I thought it was one of the more haunting passages of AS and I think about it often when I have to listen to libtards.

I need to purchase Rand’s works again. I lent all mine out and they never returned, which is fine if they are still circulating out there somewhere.


60 posted on 09/30/2022 1:17:10 PM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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bkmk bump


63 posted on 10/01/2022 10:35:00 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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