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Electric Vehicles to Hit the Skies: Air Canada Orders 30 Plug-In Planes, But Only a Few Passengers Can Ride
Western Journal ^ | September 17, 2022 | Mike Landry

Posted on 09/17/2022 6:33:31 PM PDT by lowbridge

You still can’t pack a lithium battery in your checked luggage, but by decade’s end you may be held aloft by aircraft engines powered by lithium batteries.

Thursday, Air Canada announced a purchase agreement with Heart Aerospace for 30 of its 30-passenger ES-30 electric-hybrid aircraft it plans to put into service in 2028.

Last year, United Airlines announced the purchase of 100 Heart Aerospace 19-seat all-electric ES-19 planes, and its regional partner, Mesa Airlines (probably better know as United Express), said it was also purchasing 100 ES-19 aircraft, Business Insider reported.

United’s venture capital fund, United Airlines Ventures, joined Breakthrough Energy Ventures and Mesa Airlines in investing in Heart Aerospace, a Swedish startup, with hopes of taking delivery of ES-19 planes by 2026.

Electric planes operate completely on battery power; electric-hybrids feature on-board supplemental generators that use standard aviation fuel.

The electric or electric-hybrid aircraft are envisioned for use in short-haul regional and commuter service. Turboprop planes have long been used in this service but customer demand forced regional carriers to switch to small jets.

Using jets for short hauls is very expensive, according to a Business Insider report from 2020. Electric planes are limited in range, but with lower operating costs than jets, they might be workable in regional service.

That’s apparently the direction Air Canada, United and Mesa are going — electric vehicles for short hauls.

The goal of the ES-19 is a range of 250 miles by the end of the decade. Air Canada said the ES-30 hybrid can fly all-electric 124 miles and 244 miles with its supplemental generators. The range more than doubles to 500 miles if the plane carries only 25 passengers instead of 30.

But here come the problems. First of all, reduction of passenger load on the ES-30 to increase range is

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To: familyop

Not for long.


61 posted on 09/17/2022 8:16:24 PM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" LStar)
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To: TexasGator

“Multiple airlines say you’re wrong” just a reminder physics is not determined by woke corporate marketing departments. Physics doesn’t care how intense your devotion to batteries is the fact remains their energy density is two orders of magnitude less than petroleum fuels.


62 posted on 09/17/2022 8:18:46 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: lowbridge

Sign me up! Can’t wait to fly my favorite relatives and friends hither and yon!


63 posted on 09/17/2022 8:20:19 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: TexasGator

Our electric motor?

You work for the company?


64 posted on 09/17/2022 8:22:24 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: TexasGator

Dude... they frigging ask the question about packing lithium batteries at the ticket gate every time.


65 posted on 09/17/2022 8:26:49 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: lowbridge

there will be huge stockpiles of dead batteries everywhere- They gonna dump em in the oceans?


66 posted on 09/17/2022 8:28:40 PM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: leaning conservative

It really wasn’t all that scary. Just nausea inducing. The copilot got out after we landed and started immediately chowing down on a sub. The pilot was a friend of mine and said afterwards that happens more often than you think. What really scared me one time was I saw a plane coming in the other direction. Our turboprop 350-400. The other plane about the same closing 700-800mph. Passed close enough to see pilot’s faces very briefly in other plane.


67 posted on 09/17/2022 8:30:03 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: TexasGator

Does Karen count as a cuss word?

;-)


68 posted on 09/17/2022 8:30:54 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: SERKIT; All

Yep, airlines (esp. “regional”) are all about “turn & burn” for 16 hours+ per day...if not “hot swappable” batteries then they will be running the planes in “hybrid mode” (jet fuel turbo shaft electric generators running). Sounds like an “ESG”/virtue signaling play/ploy by the airlines...”hey, look, we are doing something!!”.

https://heartaerospace.com


69 posted on 09/17/2022 8:33:46 PM PDT by Drago
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To: TexasGator
Your mistaken.

A Boeing 767 has a capacity of 23,980 gallons of jet fuel, weighing about 156,000 lbs. and a payload capacity of 115,700 lbs.

The problem for batteries is that the plane has a maximum take-off weight of 412,000 lbs. Even without a payload, the battery powered plane would have a markefly shorter range than the present aircraft fully loaded.

70 posted on 09/17/2022 8:34:45 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: leaning conservative

It was actually a front heading west to east spawning thunderstorms over a large area for us, which is why we has to circle so long, but we had plenty of fuel. Battery powered flight is for woke idiots and kid’s models.


71 posted on 09/17/2022 8:38:20 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: TexasGator

Airlines make money when they are carrying passengers. AOG (aircraft on ground) are not making money, and the idiocy of trying to use batteries to power aircraft will become obvious to even the most delusional of the EV fanboys as these absurdities are pressed into service.


72 posted on 09/17/2022 8:39:44 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: from occupied ga

The answer is to comply with the flight attendant’s instructions to hook your phone to the planes’ batteries and hope to keep the plane aloft. Several hundred passengers dumping all of their phones’ power into the aircraft’s batteries may give the flight a couple of minutes more flying time. I never said that it was a good idea.


73 posted on 09/17/2022 8:48:48 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

But a battery powered plane won’t have several hundred passengers. Because of the weight of the batteries it will have a few dozen at most.


74 posted on 09/17/2022 8:52:27 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: lowbridge

Wait until all the surrounding airports have weather issues.


75 posted on 09/17/2022 8:53:35 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: lowbridge
Yippee! We’re saving the planet!


76 posted on 09/17/2022 8:55:20 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: TexasGator

Thanks for the reminder. I admit, I have gotten sloppy over the last few years myself.


77 posted on 09/17/2022 9:53:20 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: lowbridge

All liberals aboard.


78 posted on 09/17/2022 9:53:24 PM PDT by Revel
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To: TexasGator

This is a real f-—ing stupid idea.


79 posted on 09/17/2022 10:00:45 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: TexasGator

It’s a hybrid.


80 posted on 09/17/2022 10:01:37 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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