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Electric Vehicles to Hit the Skies: Air Canada Orders 30 Plug-In Planes, But Only a Few Passengers Can Ride
Western Journal ^ | September 17, 2022 | Mike Landry

Posted on 09/17/2022 6:33:31 PM PDT by lowbridge

You still can’t pack a lithium battery in your checked luggage, but by decade’s end you may be held aloft by aircraft engines powered by lithium batteries.

Thursday, Air Canada announced a purchase agreement with Heart Aerospace for 30 of its 30-passenger ES-30 electric-hybrid aircraft it plans to put into service in 2028.

Last year, United Airlines announced the purchase of 100 Heart Aerospace 19-seat all-electric ES-19 planes, and its regional partner, Mesa Airlines (probably better know as United Express), said it was also purchasing 100 ES-19 aircraft, Business Insider reported.

United’s venture capital fund, United Airlines Ventures, joined Breakthrough Energy Ventures and Mesa Airlines in investing in Heart Aerospace, a Swedish startup, with hopes of taking delivery of ES-19 planes by 2026.

Electric planes operate completely on battery power; electric-hybrids feature on-board supplemental generators that use standard aviation fuel.

The electric or electric-hybrid aircraft are envisioned for use in short-haul regional and commuter service. Turboprop planes have long been used in this service but customer demand forced regional carriers to switch to small jets.

Using jets for short hauls is very expensive, according to a Business Insider report from 2020. Electric planes are limited in range, but with lower operating costs than jets, they might be workable in regional service.

That’s apparently the direction Air Canada, United and Mesa are going — electric vehicles for short hauls.

The goal of the ES-19 is a range of 250 miles by the end of the decade. Air Canada said the ES-30 hybrid can fly all-electric 124 miles and 244 miles with its supplemental generators. The range more than doubles to 500 miles if the plane carries only 25 passengers instead of 30.

But here come the problems. First of all, reduction of passenger load on the ES-30 to increase range is

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aviation; canada; passiveagressivecroc
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To: lowbridge

Still More #ComDem_Insanity!

Have never heard such a stupid idea.


21 posted on 09/17/2022 7:02:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SERKIT

I doubt it. It will be uneconomical, they will have not have the turnaround time and will be limited on distance. Anybody run the real numbers on this, guess not.


22 posted on 09/17/2022 7:03:46 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SERKIT

“What is turn around time to charge batteries? Once they dump the toilets, pick up the litter, reload the refreshments, and board the passengers, can they still get a 45 minute turnaround to get back in the air?”
I doubt it unless they have removable batteries that are rotated. Even then..it’s a long shot.


23 posted on 09/17/2022 7:05:10 PM PDT by jetvol1
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To: TexasGator
Compare the energy density of gasoline vis-a-vis a lithium ion battery.
24 posted on 09/17/2022 7:05:26 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: lowbridge

I’ll believe this when I see it.


25 posted on 09/17/2022 7:06:39 PM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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To: lowbridge
Battery-powered aircraft are a pipe dream.

On the other hand, once I get my pedal-powered airplane up to scale it will revolutionize green air travel. Image 100 or more people, all happily pedaling along through the skies!


26 posted on 09/17/2022 7:07:32 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: lowbridge

I’m not going first. Are you? May I suggest Biden and Trudeau?


27 posted on 09/17/2022 7:08:51 PM PDT by CFW
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To: Mr. Lucky

Compare the costs of electricity versus jet fuel

Compare the cost of maintenance


28 posted on 09/17/2022 7:11:00 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florids)
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To: lowbridge

To make the electric planes, is insane.

To purchase electric planes, is insane.

To buy tickets to fly on those planes, is even more insane.


29 posted on 09/17/2022 7:11:06 PM PDT by adorno
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To: from occupied ga

Oh noes!

The resident oversized electric golf kart fanboy will not be pleased!


30 posted on 09/17/2022 7:14:08 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: TexasGator

Fanboy is feeling the contempt....


31 posted on 09/17/2022 7:15:12 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: lowbridge

Electric planes....Air Canada....does not compute....don’t lithium batteries loose half their energy in cold weather...not to mention a complete freeze...even Def fluid for diesel trucks freezes in very cold weather. 🥶.


32 posted on 09/17/2022 7:17:39 PM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: doorgunner69

“Fanboy is feeling the contempt....”

Contempt from idiots is rewarding.


33 posted on 09/17/2022 7:18:27 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florids)
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To: doorgunner69

13 Reasons Why People Put Others Down
1. To make themselves feel better.
As backwards as it may sound, these people feel better about themselves by making others feel worse.

They will typically have low self-esteem, and their misguided way of boosting it is to take aim at another person.

Even though they, themselves, are insecure, a common technique they’ll use is to pinpoint the insecurities of others.

Their ego will get temporary relief from its own pain by inflicting hurt upon someone else.

Of course, this relief does not last long, and so the perpetrator is always on the lookout for ways to put people down.


34 posted on 09/17/2022 7:24:12 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florids)
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To: TexasGator
Contempt from idiots is rewarding.

Reminder: No profanity, no personal attacks, no violence.

Posted on 01/24/2021 11:31:27 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Reminder: No profanity, no personal attacks, no violence.

You agreed to this when you signed up for posting privileges.

This means leave off the the cussing and swear words. No f-bombs. No c-words, no sh-words, etc. Not even masked.

35 posted on 09/17/2022 7:27:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: lowbridge

"Ladies and gentlemen...this is your Chief Flight Attendant.   That steady beeping noise you hear is just an automatic notification, indicating that, unfortunately, our batteries are now totally dead.   We urge you to remain calm, stay in your seats, bend over, place your heads between your knees, and kiss your sorry asses goodbye."

     

36 posted on 09/17/2022 7:29:46 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: TexasGator

Is the powertrain type certified yet? Just wait until the lawyers get around to it.


37 posted on 09/17/2022 7:33:32 PM PDT by fretzer
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To: TigersEye

A statement. No personal attack.


38 posted on 09/17/2022 7:33:57 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florids)
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To: fretzer

“Is the powertrain type certified yet? Just wait until the lawyers get around to it.”

More reliable than fanjets.


39 posted on 09/17/2022 7:34:48 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florids)
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To: TexasGator

OK, Karen. If you say so.


40 posted on 09/17/2022 7:37:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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