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Scientists debate how lethal COVID is. Some say it's now less risky than flu
NPR ^ | 09/16/2022 | Rob Stein

Posted on 09/16/2022 7:22:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: delchiante
"...partnership with tyrants in govt didn’t promote life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.."

Who woulda thought that a Warp Speed SwampVax would not save the world from a fake crisis?

And what does it say about our man that Trump is further behind this enlightenment curve than is NPR?

The vax is quickly becoming Trump's version of Bush's WMD. He can claim he meant well, but the whole mission was a lie. And it cost very much life, liberty and happiness. HUGE failure is huge failure, regardless of intent.

41 posted on 09/16/2022 9:07:00 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: alloysteel
A LOT of very good factual information about COVID-19 Wuhan virus was suppressed from the very beginning, including the efficacy of the hydroxychloroquine-zinc-azithromycin protocol and ivermectin. Other failed medicines were pushed in their stead, like remdesivir, which proved to have little impact. Molnupiravir (Lagevrio) and nirmatrelvir/ritonavir (Paxlovid) are oral antiviral agents proved to be effective only if the disease was still in the early stages, but no benefit if administered too late in the progression of the disease.

The only real advantage of using these antivirals, is that they were VASTLY more profitable to the pharmaceutical firms than the HCQ or ivermectin treatments. And that was only to the Big Pharma interests.

As I've said from a few months into the plan-demic, FOLLOW THE MONEY!

42 posted on 09/16/2022 9:10:34 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: BuddhaBrown
The vax is quickly becoming Trump's version of Bush's WMD. He can claim he meant well, but the whole mission was a lie.

It is only a lie if you know it to be untrue. Trump depended upon highly qualified "experts" whose agenda was to mislead him and do him political harm. Bush depended upon intel reports from multiple sources that confirmed WMDs in Iraq. Which were in fact moved to Syria on the eve of the Gulf War.

Does it bother me that neither has said "They fooled me"? Yes, a little, but not nearly as much as the liars who did the fooling.

43 posted on 09/16/2022 9:19:40 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: BenLurkin

HOMOSEXUAL, because there’s nothing GAY about it.


44 posted on 09/16/2022 9:23:51 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

OOPS! Wrong thread!


45 posted on 09/16/2022 9:25:01 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
"... but not nearly as much as the liars who did the fooling."

No doubt, others were/are flat out evil.

My point is that both Trump and Bush made huge mistakes, supposedly meaning well. So far, we have zero assurance from Trump that he won't be a willing participant again. Especially, since he still either stubbornly or ignorantly sticks to his misguided guns regarding his SawmpVax.

46 posted on 09/16/2022 9:33:33 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s been a SCAMdemic all along. I wonder when those who gaslighted the truth-tellers will apologize? There’s quite a few on FR who should eat crow.


47 posted on 09/16/2022 9:43:53 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable. )
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To: BuddhaBrown

NPR isn’t ahead of any curve..

They’re behind..
Way behind..

Tyrants used the lack of jab/ vax as a hammer.
Tyrants used the jab/vax as a hammer..

Tyrants kept moving the goalposts..

That’s not on Trump.

The lockdowns were never going to end... Schools were never going to open.
Businesses other than Walmart and Target were never going to reopen.

The Wuhan Coup Flu did its job..

Many weren’t ready to pledge their lives, fortunes and sacred honor..

They wanted Trump to do it all. And get the FIB raids and the anal exam of investigation after investigation and impeachment after impeachment..

Yeah, I take a look at the morally corrupt big medicine, big pharma and govt, and see the non career politician as the reason the world had to endure the Wuhan Coup Flu and the constant moving of the goalposts of ‘2 weeks to slow the spread and 6 ft social distance to you must be jabbed to work, eat out, exercise, go to a movie, fly a plane, go on a cruise..’

Darn you Trump! /S


48 posted on 09/16/2022 9:53:04 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: BenLurkin

The truth is FINALLY coming out!🤔


49 posted on 09/16/2022 10:07:57 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: usconservative

totally agree.

I got covid for the first time a month ago. At first I thought it was a cold. But I have not had a cold for maybe two decades. So I went to the clinic. It was covid. Took about a week for my covid tests to come back negative. I think I have a lingering case of long covid. This is expressed as a little extra phlegm.


50 posted on 09/16/2022 10:08:09 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: delchiante
Yes, there are bad guys in the world. And they are mean to Trump. That was not a new thing with the semi-new virus.

You are essentially making the case that Trump was politically pressured into creating a worse plague on America, the world. And that he caved. We agree on that.

Trump was elected to drain them from DC. Instead he joined them, willingly. Because he is a populist politician and it was a popular idea at the time. And the election loomed.

I don't enjoy pointing out Trump failure. I want him to snap out of his ego coma and politically survive this awful mistake.

I want Trump to shout from the rooftops the things you said, not to continue in his ego-driven love of his imagined Warp Speed success.

Regardless your excuses, he still loves a terrible, failed product for which he still claims credit. This can't be spun as any sort of good quality of his. It's utter failure.

51 posted on 09/16/2022 10:23:32 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

“I do worry a bit that they might slip the mRNA into some other types of shots, though, very possibly without my doctor’s knowledge.”

My wife and I do get the flu shots. She got hers a couple weeks ago and asked/demanded several times “This DOES NOT have the COVID vaccine in it. Right?”


52 posted on 09/16/2022 10:27:23 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: BuddhaBrown

This isn’t all about Trump..

Maybe you expected Trump to fight the coup by himself..

I am still waiting for the US military to admit its enabling of the Wuhan Coup Flu. And allowing an installation of a fake president..

Trump is at the end of a very long line of people,places and/or institutions that need to answer for their action or inaction.

But I see the last 2+ years a little different than you..


53 posted on 09/16/2022 10:52:00 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: BenLurkin
COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters for Young Adults: A Risk-Benefit Assessment and Five Ethical Arguments against Mandates at Universities

Using CDC and sponsor-reported adverse event data, we find that booster mandates may cause a net expected harm: per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males, and 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade ≥3 reactogenicity which interferes with daily activities. Given the high prevalence of post-infection immunity, this risk-benefit profile is even less favourable.

54 posted on 09/16/2022 11:11:53 AM PDT by yelostar (As of today - Donald Trump continues to endorse Dr. Oz for U.S. Senate)
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To: delchiante
"...But I see the last 2+ years a little different than you..."

OK.

It's the next two yrs I'm talking about. The vax is bad. The Left will flip on it. Then blame Trump for all the injuries and death logged before the 24 election.

I get it, Trump only rushed science to MAKE the entirely unneeded new and historically harmful Anti-Freedom weapon.

But when he was gone, it was the bad guys on the Left who actually USED it - on full auto. What genius could have predicted that?

Perhaps I'm wrong. But my opinion is that the vax will be a giant political loser more each day. And Trump is still proud of this awful thing.

Were we just wrong about the VSG thing... or does he not plan to run?

55 posted on 09/16/2022 11:39:11 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BenLurkin

One of the reasons the death rate was so high a year ago compared to now (aside from fraudulent reported numbers) is that the disease ripped through the vulnerable and killed many of those. The available victims are lower now.

Aside from the lies and coverups with this disease, the biggest tragedy of all was our reticence to help people understand how to make better health choices in their lives so we don’t have as many vulnerable folks in the next pass of a disease — whatever that might be...


56 posted on 09/16/2022 11:43:34 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: BuddhaBrown

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Then blame Trump for all the injuries and death logged before the 24 election.

Yeah..

So?

They blame Trump about everything...

81,000,000 built in fake voters hate Trump and blame Trump..


57 posted on 09/16/2022 12:03:20 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante
"81,000,000 built in fake voters hate Trump and blame Trump."

Yes, they hate Trump. But they are not all fake.

Yes, the election was stolen. But our side must acknowledge that the D voters did and will again show up in very large numbers. Driven by hate of Trump, not by love for Biden or whoever.

D voters are driven by hate. Of individuals and of America.

R voters are driven by fear. Of moral decay and govt tyranny.

Driven by these forces, both sides will get 40+ percent of the voters regardless who is on the ticket.

I see lots of silly conclusions based on the size of rallies for Trump -vs- for Biden. That means nothing regarding turn out. Millions upon millions will turn out to vote AGAINST Trump. Just as we did for years against Clinton, Obama... not FOR our pathetic candidates.

58 posted on 09/16/2022 12:41:40 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BenLurkin
Back in 2020 I got the two shots but knowing what I do now, I wouldn't have.

With that being said, about 5 weeks ago I contracted Covid with nothing but fatigue and body aches with no fever. Within 7 days I tested negative.......

An elderly friend who had all the shots and boosters contracted Covid after me and felt like crap for almost 2 weeks......

59 posted on 09/16/2022 12:46:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't walk thru the watermelon patch)
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To: BuddhaBrown

If millions of real voters,combined with fake voters, vote for tyranny, then bless their hearts..


60 posted on 09/16/2022 1:28:22 PM PDT by delchiante
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