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Scientists debate how lethal COVID is. Some say it's now less risky than flu
NPR ^ | 09/16/2022 | Rob Stein

Posted on 09/16/2022 7:22:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin

The debate over COVID's mortality rate hinges on what counts as a COVID death. Gandhi and other researchers argue that the daily death toll attributed to COVID is exaggerated because many deaths blamed on the disease are actually from other causes. Some of the people who died for other reasons happened to also test positive for the coronavirus.

"We are now seeing consistently that more than 70% of our COVID hospitalizations are in that category," says Dr. Shira Doron, an infectious disease specialist... "If you're counting them all as hospitalizations, and then those people die and you count them all as COVID deaths, you are pretty dramatically overcounting."

If deaths were classified more accurately, then the daily death toll would be closer to the toll the flu takes during a typical season, Doron says. If this is true, the odds of a person dying if they get a COVID infection — what's called the case fatality rate — would be about the same as the flu now, which is estimated to be around 0.1%, or perhaps even lower.

A second reason many experts estimate that COVID's mortality rate is probably lower than it appears is that many infections aren't being reported now because of home testing.

The fatality rate is a ratio — the number of deaths over the number of confirmed cases — so if there are more actual cases, that means that the likelihood of an individual dying is lower.

COVID remains much more lethal for older and medically frail people than younger people. Recent data from the CDC shows that compared to 18- to 29-year-olds, people aged 65 to 74 have 60 times the risk of dying; those aged 75 to 84 have 140 times the risk; and those 85 and older have 330 times greater risk.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: covid
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1 posted on 09/16/2022 7:22:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
Two years ago NPR would be receiving their ban notice from FB.

What mendacious clowns leftists are.

2 posted on 09/16/2022 7:24:06 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

bttt


3 posted on 09/16/2022 7:25:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Deaths FROM covid indicate a considerably lower death rate than from influenza. Now for deaths WITH covid - hard to say.


4 posted on 09/16/2022 7:25:56 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: BenLurkin

We were right all along and they will deny it.


5 posted on 09/16/2022 7:26:22 AM PDT by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. )
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Just slowly setting up the pieces so that they can say it was never a big issue and the orange man was bad and should be culpable


6 posted on 09/16/2022 7:28:08 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: BenLurkin

So does this settle the It’s Just the Flu Bro thread then?


7 posted on 09/16/2022 7:29:04 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: BenLurkin

It always was less deadly than the flu, just look at the lack of child-deaths.


8 posted on 09/16/2022 7:29:43 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: BenLurkin

Very late to acknowledge the obvious, but better than never I suppose.


9 posted on 09/16/2022 7:30:27 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: BenLurkin

It sounds like Dr. Shira Doron just ended his or her career with statements of fact like that.


10 posted on 09/16/2022 7:30:51 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: BenLurkin

The “from” versus “with” COVID argument has been going on here and elsewhere for well over two full years as well as the observations that estimates of deaths from COVID are wildly exaggerated. Those on FR were well ahead of that curve.


11 posted on 09/16/2022 7:32:18 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas

They will NEVER admit “you were right.” Just like a stubborn, mean, vengeful spouse.


12 posted on 09/16/2022 7:32:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: BenLurkin

Proves that closing the schools was the wrong move. There was no risk for the students. Maybe it could be argued that the older teachers were at risk but even if so a solution could have been tailored to them rather than a broad shutdown.


13 posted on 09/16/2022 7:33:06 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: BenLurkin

Once defeating Trump became the focus, the definition of “death FROM Covid” kept expanding and expanding.


14 posted on 09/16/2022 7:33:33 AM PDT by montag813
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To: BenLurkin

All this means is that each flu season will soon be met with warnings that this year’s flu is “deadlier than COVID.” The remedy, of course, will still be masking, school closures and ad hoc shutdowns. Because arbitrary power is addictive.


15 posted on 09/16/2022 7:33:39 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: BenLurkin

Well....duh.

But, of course, the real purpose of CV-19 was always to get rid of Trump and make the population more complaint to authoritian dictates.


16 posted on 09/16/2022 7:35:03 AM PDT by rbg81
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[[The debate over COVID’s mortality rate hinges on what counts as a COVID death]]

The scum counted many deaths as “dying FROM covid” that should,never have been counted. And they sued those numbers to scare folks into getting the vaccines.

“Currently, the COVID death definition includes anyone who has COVID listed as a cause of death on their death certificate, and any individual who has had a COVID-19 diagnosis within 60 days but does not have COVID listed as a cause of death on their death certificate”

Early in the pandemic, and absent clear national guidance, DPH matched COVID-19 surveillance case information with death certificates to identify deaths in people who tested positive for the virus but did not have COVID listed as a cause of death. To avoid the possibility of missing any COVID-associated death, anyone who tested positive for COVID and died was counted as a COVID-associated death regardless of the length of time between their diagnosis and their death or whether COVID was listed as the cause on their death certificate. “

https://www.mass.gov/news/department-of-public-health-updates-covid-19-death-definition


17 posted on 09/16/2022 7:37:06 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

No, they’re trying to back away from their responsibility for the hysteria and manipulation of data. You’re going to see more and more articles like this, especially as lawsuits and investigations loom.

“Who, me? Nah, I never believed it…just ignore that old stuff…”


18 posted on 09/16/2022 7:39:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Exactly. Just saw a de ate where some fella was claiming that the argument between “WITH” and “FROM” was “stupid argument because... “just having covid with other serious conditions pushed everyone who died over the edge and caused their deaths”

It was alarming how adamant the person was that the numbers that the cec were giving were “correct” and not manipulated for political purposes


19 posted on 09/16/2022 7:41:21 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: BenLurkin

Bait and switch. They know people are on to them with the killer Covid shot so now they’re going to put the DNA modifier clotting agent into the flu shot serum. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.


20 posted on 09/16/2022 7:42:31 AM PDT by Old Yeller (A nation of sheep, produces a government of wolves.l)
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