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The DoJ Argues that the Intelligence Community Overrides the Judiciary (reposted with link)
American Thinker ^ | 11 Sep, 2022 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 09/11/2022 4:56:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber

At this point in time I have no regard for the probity or competence of the Intelligence Community and neither, apparently, does Judge Aileen Cannon, who earlier this week ordered the appointment of a Special Master to review those documents seized in the Mar-a-Lago raid, which it claims are classified. The Department of Justice appears to have been surprised that it has lost credibility and filed a motion seeking a stay on that portion of the order and a Notice of Appeal to the Eleventh Circuit indicating its intention to file an interlocutory appeal.

I don’t think the trial judge who issued a very well-considered order will grant the stay. I don’t think the Eleventh Circuit will, either. I don’t think the Eleventh Circuit will even grant an interlocutory appeal on this matter. I do think all of these pleadings reveal the weakness of the grounds for a search and seizure of materials at the home Donald J. Trump, the overreach of the warrant, and the expansive search itself. Worse for the DoJ and FBI, I believe their actions amount to a claim that under no circumstances does the judiciary have a right to question anything the Intelligence committee does as long as it makes a claim of “national security.” Such a claim is scary and should be -- and I think will be -- denied.

Without going into all the fine points of what it means to say a trial court order is an interlocutory order, basically it means that the order is not a final one. In this case, it is merely an order covering discovery matters in a trial. As Seth Barrett Tillman tweeted, ”The government has not been forced to return any materials, and no privilege rulings have been made for which to take an appeal.”

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: corruption; creepstate; deepstate; doj; donutwatch; maralago; policestate; scotus; singlepartystate; tyranny
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To: MtnClimber

The “intelligence” community doesn’t respect the Constitution in getting what it wants. It may occasionally generate good results, but even ideal results must not be the result of unconstitutional action.

The entire IC should be destroyed like the nest of cockroaches it is.


21 posted on 09/11/2022 5:58:33 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: eeriegeno

I remember that very vividly.


22 posted on 09/11/2022 6:00:13 AM PDT by Gaffer (Infidel, and proud of it!)
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To: tired&retired

Add

Clinton Foundation Cover-up

Mexican gun running by DOJ and BATF

ANTIFA riot Cover-up

Voter Fraud Cover-up


23 posted on 09/11/2022 6:01:44 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t know the extra credit answer. Please enlighten?


24 posted on 09/11/2022 6:02:37 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: tired&retired

And the CIA run by Brennen.


25 posted on 09/11/2022 6:04:05 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: dljordan

“The intel agencies are acting as their own sovereign government. “

Looks to me that’s most of the agencies not just the intelligence agencies.

The WINNER!


26 posted on 09/11/2022 6:05:26 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: Chickensoup

The militia.
There are many times more military veterans than there are agents on active duty. Many times more.


27 posted on 09/11/2022 6:15:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Zathras
Everyone has asked themselves how Nazi Germany ever happened. This is how!

That's exactly how. It was under the guise of "national security". They need to be disbanded. I don't think cutting their budget is enough.

28 posted on 09/11/2022 6:17:13 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: Travis McGee

Oh I thought the question used the left politically but it was being used directionally!


29 posted on 09/11/2022 6:24:03 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: dljordan

Add EPA and HHS to that gang of totalitarians.


30 posted on 09/11/2022 6:38:53 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: dljordan

Add the IRS and EPA and given what we’ve had to put up with for the last 2.5 years, the FDA and CDC.


31 posted on 09/11/2022 6:39:46 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Chickensoup

Infernal Revenue Service?


32 posted on 09/11/2022 6:39:56 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: MtnClimber

Worse for the DoJ and FBI, I believe their actions amount to a claim that under no circumstances does the judiciary have a right to question anything the Intelligence committee does as long as it makes a claim of “national security.”

The corrupt FBI’s favorite go-to phrase to deny accountability is to claim “sources and methods would be compromised; those sources and methods being illegal operations by the FBI.


33 posted on 09/11/2022 6:43:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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To: Gaffer

I agree as these civil servants have become like the Gestapo.


34 posted on 09/11/2022 7:06:56 AM PDT by Lumper20
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Ping


35 posted on 09/11/2022 7:41:34 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

36 posted on 09/11/2022 8:10:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: MtnClimber

Bkmk


37 posted on 09/11/2022 8:31:30 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: MtnClimber

Lets be honest about it - this is not an intelligence agency.

It is a far-left-wing violent and destructive secret militarized police force with brutal enforcement squads directed by secret intelligence forces of Marxist communist ideology and connected to Obama and followers, engaged in brutal persecution and suppression of chosen political enemies designated by the Marxist Communist Brandon Deathwinter Junta.

They are not accountable to Judiciary nor Legislative nor even Executive branches of government. It is completely rogue agency, not answerable to the US government in any manner.


38 posted on 09/11/2022 8:33:13 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: MtnClimber; 5th MEB; Albion Wilde; American in Israel; bitt; BlackAdderess; bobfeland; burghguy; ...
Thanks for the ping MtnClimber.


Clarice Feldman ping.

If you'd like to be on or off the Clarice Feldman ping list, usually issued only on Sunday morning, please click Private Reply below and drop me a FReepmail.

39 posted on 09/11/2022 8:56:51 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: MtnClimber
Remember folks, we as citizens of this former Republic have a lot of power that the government goes to great pains to make sure that we don't really know about. If you are ever on a jury or grand jury and any evidence is presented that has in any way passed through the FBI, you are completely justified in treating it as less reliable than hearsay. When they can no longer get convictions, all they can do is force people through the process. Granted, in many cases, the process itself is the punishment, but WE can stop them from being able to get convictions!
40 posted on 09/11/2022 11:24:45 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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