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Old coins worth nearly $300,000 found under floorboards [Jolly Old England]
WTHR ^ | 09/04/2022

Posted on 09/04/2022 2:15:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin

LONDON, UK — An English household literally uncovered a buried treasure, and they'll likely get a pretty penny for it.

During a renovation of their 18th-century home in 2019, the residents came across a salt-glazed earthenware cup stuck beneath the concrete and floorboards.

When they looked inside, they discovered more than 260 gold coins.

The auction house Spink & Son issued a statement calling this one of the largest hoards of 17th and 18th century English gold coins ever confirmed in Britain.


TOPICS: History; Local News
KEYWORDS: coins; england; epigraphyandlanguage; floorboards; godsgravesglyphs; gold; goldcoins; kitchen; london; middleages; numismatics; renaissance; silasmarner; uk
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
The way England has it set up encourages the detectorists to find stuff, the government has to pay the appraised value. And iirc, the detectorist and the farmer (or property owner) can come up with their own agreement on the split so it isn't necessarily 50/50 set by the government.

And by “first dibs”, the government doesn't want everything that is found - only if it is culturally significant.

I can't imagine that these coins from the 1700’s would be that significant to have in a museum.

21 posted on 09/04/2022 3:36:13 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The “treasure trove” laws apply if you dig it out of the dirt. If you find it in a house, it may be deemed to have passed down from the original owner to successive owners.


22 posted on 09/04/2022 3:44:16 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: AnAmericanMother

The left image says “...Rex Jacob 6 D G...”.

...King Jacob the 6th, By the Grace of God ... (D G is Deus Gratia, still on British coinage).

“Jacob the 6th” would almost certainly be James the 6th of Scotland, who became James I upon ascension to the throne of England.

I can’t read the rest (before of after) as my Latin is not good enough - I am a barbarian.


23 posted on 09/04/2022 5:00:35 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: BenLurkin

In the US the feds would just sweep in and confiscate it all.


24 posted on 09/04/2022 5:08:02 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: BenLurkin; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.

25 posted on 09/04/2022 6:06:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: 21twelve; Flash Bazbeaux

Thanks!


26 posted on 09/04/2022 6:08:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin

If those are 1oz coins, they’d be worth about $500,000 for the gold content. If the coins are really that old, then value would more likely thousands of dollars per coin, possibly more because of the quantity . . .


27 posted on 09/04/2022 6:15:01 PM PDT by MCSETots
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"Yes especially in England. Isn’t their a law that states anything found on English land belongs to the crown?"

Yes. Not all relics found are considered treasure, but whatever is found has to be reported to the local Finds Liaison Officer or the Coroner. According to the link below, they have 14 days in which to report their find.

Discovery and Reporting

It is a fairly long process from reporting the treasure, to the final disposition of the find.

28 posted on 09/04/2022 7:46:29 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: BenLurkin
"I think the harp on the coat of arms makes it a UK coin, I think."

It's the Royal Coat of Arms of James I of England, and VI of Scotland.

29 posted on 09/04/2022 7:49:08 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: BenLurkin

What happened to the original owners of the gold?


30 posted on 09/04/2022 11:00:25 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: laplata

“I think you are right. I don’t think people actually own land in England, but it is more like a lease as long as they pay their taxes on it.”

It is the same in America to some extent. Don’t pay your taxes and you will see who really owns the land.


31 posted on 09/05/2022 1:20:33 AM PDT by Paperpusher (Gal 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.)
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To: Notthereyet

And tax that flat percentage?


32 posted on 09/05/2022 4:11:20 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: BenLurkin

Watch the descendants of the owners from past time periods come out of their woodwork!


33 posted on 09/05/2022 11:52:08 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free... Galatians 5:1 )
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To: laplata; Bobalu

Probably it was the auction house that spilled the beans, not the coin finders.


34 posted on 09/05/2022 11:53:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free... Galatians 5:1 )
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To: Albion Wilde

Good point.


35 posted on 09/05/2022 12:11:42 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Another problem that regularly arises with historical items that are auctioned, is that they are barred from leaving the UK if the auction winner lives in another country. This is the most recent item banned from export. This link is to The History Blog, which may take a while to load if you want to view the story.

Export Barred on Roundel Manuscript Gifted to Queen Elizabeth I

A while back, singer Kelly Clarkson bid on a turquoise ring that belonged to Jane Austin, and it was banned from leaving the UK.

Jane Austen ring to stay in the UK after export ban

They can't ban the bidders, so they do the next best thing, they ban the export of the items they don't want leaving the country.

36 posted on 09/05/2022 12:58:02 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Chickensoup

Mommy

I need to research that..... excellent catch!


37 posted on 09/05/2022 7:33:05 PM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet. )
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To: mass55th

Brazil did that with Pele, so he couldn’t be drafted by European leagues.

True story!


38 posted on 09/06/2022 2:46:24 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
"Brazil did that with Pele, so he couldn’t be drafted by European leagues."

Didn't know that bit of history...thanks for sharing. I hope Brazil's government paid him reparations for being their hostage/slave. I see he's still alive. Do you know if he's ever commented on it?

39 posted on 09/06/2022 11:14:23 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

You’re welcome! I don’t know if he commented on it, but he was still one of the highest-paid players so he may not have any beef financially.

One advantage to that arrangement is that it let him play with many Brazilian players, so international tournaments may have been easier as a result. When Colombian cartel leaders wanted their country to do better, they offered a lot of money so good Colombian players could remain in their domestic league (and become more familiar with each other) instead of being scattered in Europe - though it never worked out as they hoped.


40 posted on 09/08/2022 2:42:00 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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