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To: semimojo; Jane Long; bagster; ransomnote
The rate of deaths of young (and cardiovascular fit) athletes dropping dead is through the roof compared to baseline.

This is a good case in point. I don’t think you can back that up.

I’m aware of the deceptive claim made in The Expose and a few other places but if you take the time to wade through the articles you find that claim is based on a laughable Wikipedia page on soccer deaths solely updated by internet randos.

Here's the baseline, troll-boi.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17143117/

between the years 1966 and 2004 there were 1,101 sudden deaths among athletes under the age of 35.

Do we all agree that 1966-2004 is long enough before the coof, that there is no contamination of the dataset by coof sufferers?

Now let's look at evidence of widespread myocarditis as a result of clot shots.

Now, here's the rate of myocarditis as a side effect of the clot shots, REPORTED TO VAERS over time as a histogram.

And nothing to see here. https://t.co/FYlXoRJWeO pic.twitter.com/8pP9mRx7rQ— Lars Svendsen (@NorsemanAnon) November 9, 2021

Here's a pic so you don't have to click:

And, yeah, I know about the "deBOOOOOONKING". Get stuffed.

Now here's a link to a site (by internet randos, natch).

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/

But the key thing: this site lists each and every athlete, in order by date, with a name, circumstances of their collapse, and links to external accounts. It even points out that the jab status for some of the athletes is unknown.

And that's fine.

Because the number of athletes who died in prior years, was 66 PER YEAR. But in January of 2022 alone, 87 died.

The clot shots are KNOWN to cause cardiovascular issues, retrospectively.

These effects are in line with mechanisms which were talked about by doctors long before the issues actually appeared.

And now the results are showing up in the real world.

If you want I can track down (if they haven't been censored) interviews with top athletes who lost the ability to perform, due to cardiovascular issues, right after the clot shot.

Like national-level mountain bikers who continually monitored their heart rate during a race and were on top of their body. Not some caricature like you pretend to paint.

So what other external factor is out there that is causing the huge increase in deaths?

I know.

Donald Trump.

No, no, it's...global warming!!

You lose again, troll.

152 posted on 08/17/2022 7:08:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; semimojo
You lose again, troll.


153 posted on 08/17/2022 8:19:53 PM PDT by bagster
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To: grey_whiskers
Here's the baseline...

Ah, the old Lausanne Recommendations paper which you think establishes a baseline.

This paper also shows up as the basis for your goodsciencing citation below, so let's look at what it actually is.

The study looked in 8 medical databases for cases of Sudden Cardiac Death in athletes. Was this in any way meant to identify all of the SAD cases? No, of course not. After all, they only used selected databases, none of which even attempt to be exhaustive.

The authors weren't trying to establish a baseline number of cases and in fact make it clear that their data is incomplete:

"The most important limitation however is that SCD in young athletes as reported in the published and studied papers is certainly underestimated. Most of the events occur in youth potentially involved in sports activities, which are not reported in the literature. SCD is therefore likely to have comprised more than the 1101 athletes in the 38-year period across the world, which we reported."

The authors are explicitly saying "Hey, anti-vaxer, this doesn't establish a baseline number of cases, don't try to use it that way!"

Well, in that case what's the study about?:

"The aim of our review of the literature was to analyse the reported cases of SCD among young athletes, to identify the sports with the highest risk of SCD, and to compare the PPSP in use."

They looked at a small subset of SAD cases to help establish screening criteria.

Now let's look at evidence of widespread myocarditis as a result of clot shots.

We know the vaccines can cause myocarditis in young people. The cases are generally mild and resolve within a couple of weeks but are still something to consider.

The incidence of VAERS reporting, however, doesn't really add anything. First, VAERS reporting for almost everything is going to be elevated because we've given hundreds of million of shots. More to the point, do we have more cases of myocarditis in the vaccinated vs. the unvaccinated population. VAERS can't tell us.

Because the number of athletes who died in prior years, was 66 PER YEAR. But in January of 2022 alone, 87 died.

No. The basis for this claim is the Lausanne paper referenced above which is explicitly not a baseline. Even if it were there's no way to tie this to the vaccine. An increase in cases could just as easily be the result of Covid infection.

What I've said is missing is evidence of a higher rate of adverse events/deaths in the vaccinated population vs. a similar unvaccinated one. You haven't advanced the ball one inch closer to that goal.

163 posted on 08/18/2022 6:53:24 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: grey_whiskers

Dude, you tore them a new one, and it had to hurt em.

I will not underestimate you ever. Well done.


164 posted on 08/18/2022 7:00:50 AM PDT by Radix
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