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To: grey_whiskers
Here's the baseline...

Ah, the old Lausanne Recommendations paper which you think establishes a baseline.

This paper also shows up as the basis for your goodsciencing citation below, so let's look at what it actually is.

The study looked in 8 medical databases for cases of Sudden Cardiac Death in athletes. Was this in any way meant to identify all of the SAD cases? No, of course not. After all, they only used selected databases, none of which even attempt to be exhaustive.

The authors weren't trying to establish a baseline number of cases and in fact make it clear that their data is incomplete:

"The most important limitation however is that SCD in young athletes as reported in the published and studied papers is certainly underestimated. Most of the events occur in youth potentially involved in sports activities, which are not reported in the literature. SCD is therefore likely to have comprised more than the 1101 athletes in the 38-year period across the world, which we reported."

The authors are explicitly saying "Hey, anti-vaxer, this doesn't establish a baseline number of cases, don't try to use it that way!"

Well, in that case what's the study about?:

"The aim of our review of the literature was to analyse the reported cases of SCD among young athletes, to identify the sports with the highest risk of SCD, and to compare the PPSP in use."

They looked at a small subset of SAD cases to help establish screening criteria.

Now let's look at evidence of widespread myocarditis as a result of clot shots.

We know the vaccines can cause myocarditis in young people. The cases are generally mild and resolve within a couple of weeks but are still something to consider.

The incidence of VAERS reporting, however, doesn't really add anything. First, VAERS reporting for almost everything is going to be elevated because we've given hundreds of million of shots. More to the point, do we have more cases of myocarditis in the vaccinated vs. the unvaccinated population. VAERS can't tell us.

Because the number of athletes who died in prior years, was 66 PER YEAR. But in January of 2022 alone, 87 died.

No. The basis for this claim is the Lausanne paper referenced above which is explicitly not a baseline. Even if it were there's no way to tie this to the vaccine. An increase in cases could just as easily be the result of Covid infection.

What I've said is missing is evidence of a higher rate of adverse events/deaths in the vaccinated population vs. a similar unvaccinated one. You haven't advanced the ball one inch closer to that goal.

163 posted on 08/18/2022 6:53:24 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
"The most important limitation however is that SCD in young athletes as reported in the published and studied papers is certainly underestimated. Most of the events occur in youth potentially involved in sports activities, which are not reported in the literature. SCD is therefore likely to have comprised more than the 1101 athletes in the 38-year period across the world, which we reported."

1) Shove it, sideways. This is literal handwaving. "Likely to" is not science, but conjecture. This happens to be the best data available.

2) If you want to play it your way, recall that 1% or less or adverse events are reported to VAERS. So that means the side effects in the general public are vastly greater than the chart above. And what a lying sack of Pfauci you are for trying "First, VAERS reporting for almost everything is going to be elevated because we've given hundreds of million of shots." Ever hear of mandatory pediatric vaccinations? VAERS encompasses those, and they're still dwarfed by the clot shots--over a year and a half or so, compared to 30 years or whatever. You lose again, troll-boi. Source: https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf Suck it dry. Whatever you're getting paid to spread propaganda, the person paying you is getting ripped off.

165 posted on 08/18/2022 7:12:38 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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