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Child abuse victim, 10, who was six weeks pregnant is forced to travel from Ohio to Indiana for an abortion after home state outlaws it under Roe v Wade ruling
Daily Mail UK ^ | July 1, 2022 | Vanessa Serna

Posted on 07/01/2022 6:25:39 PM PDT by Morgana

A 10-year-old child abuse victim was forced to seek an abortion in Indiana after her home state of Ohio barred abortion following the Supreme Court decision to overturn of Roe v. Wade.

A child abuse doctor in Ohio sought the help of Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an Indianapolis obstetrician-gynecologist, on Monday to help the girl get an abortion after the state banned the procedure after six weeks - hours after the 6-3 Supreme Court vote, The Columbus Dispatch reported.

The child was six weeks and three days pregnant - therefore, ineligible by just three days to receive the procedure in her home state.

Abortion advocates in the state attempted to halt Ohio's six-week abortion ban, but the effort was denied by a judge on Friday.

As of Friday, Indiana's only abortion restriction is a law requiring clinics to ask women if their abortion is coerced - which is illegal, Fox 59 reported.

The law went into effect on July 1 and more restrictions might pass in the state following The Indiana General Assembly hearing on July 25.

'It's hard to imagine that in just a few short weeks we will have no ability to provide that care,' Bernard told The Columbus Dispatch.

Until then, abortion providers in Indiana say they have noticed the impact of the overturn of Roe, claiming they have seen an increase of patients coming from out of state to receive the procedure, according to The Columbus Dispatch.

The Women's Med, an Indiana abortion clinic that also has a center in Ohio, has received patients in need of an operation from their Ohio clinic.

Dr. Katie McHugh, an OBGYN in Indiana, has witnessed 'an insane amount of requests' from women in Ohio and Kentucky seeking an abortion.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: abortion; dobbsdecision; gersonfuentes; guatemala; indiana; murder; ohio; prolife; roevswade; vanessaserna
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I know it’ possible but you know how the left reporters like to make the news supportive of their agendas.


101 posted on 07/01/2022 9:36:28 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Paleo Conservative
That’s 2 reasons an abortion would still be legal.

Not in Ohio. Her doctor obviously didn’t feel she qualified.

The six-week bill, sponsored by state Sen. Kristina Roegner (R-Hudson), does not have an exception for rape or incest. It also only applies only to intrauterine pregnancies. It only has two exceptions.

The ban allows for physicians to perform an abortion if the procedure is to prevent a someone’s death or bodily impairment, which is defined as any “medically diagnosed condition that so complicates the pregnancy of the woman as to directly or indirectly cause the substantial and reversible impairment of a major bodily function.” This includes pre-eclampsia, “inevitable” abortion and premature rupture of the membranes. It could also be diabetes or multiple sclerosis but it can’t be anything related to mental health.

To be able to perform the life-saving measure, a physician has to write that the procedure is necessary for the above reasons and must include the medical condition and the medical rationale for it. Also, the written documentation must be included in the pregnant person’s medical records and the doctor must have a copy of it for at least seven years.

The other exception is if there is no heartbeat.


102 posted on 07/01/2022 9:38:46 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: madison10

Kathy Barnette’s mother was pregnant at 11 from rape.

It’s possible.

I believe the reason young girls are starting their periods so much younger, some younger than 10, I’ve read as young as 8, is because of over sexualization from an immoral exhibitionist society. Many have surmised hormones in food. No. I don’t believe that’s why.


103 posted on 07/01/2022 9:39:53 PM PDT by BlueHorseShoe
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To: entropy12

If you actually read my comments objectively, you would know what you said is a complete lie. But you aren’t and you’ve shown it in every one of your reactive posts.

We’re done here.


104 posted on 07/01/2022 10:06:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: MHGinTN; kiryandil

>> exploiting a ten year old

The Left is all about exploitation. It exploits children, minorities, the confused, the mentally ill, women.

Since ObamaCare, the medical community has solidified into a cult — and that’s not an exaggeration.


105 posted on 07/01/2022 11:00:42 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Morgana
The headline needs to worry about who got the 10 year old pregnant and what time the lynch mob meets up this Saturday night to go get him.

I couldn't agree more.

106 posted on 07/02/2022 4:58:28 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: Adder

My question exactly. They have to have known she was pregnant for a while. Why did they wait until she was three days past the acceptable date in Ohio to perform the procedure? If they had done it the day of the ruling, she would have been fine. Something doesn’t add up.


107 posted on 07/02/2022 5:13:31 AM PDT by redangus
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To: BlueHorseShoe

Periods start when people are exposed to sexual influence?

By that logic girls brought up in an all female Christian environment wouldn’t jit puberty till their late teens!

My wife’s in her mid forties, her periods starred at age 9.

Our kids went to a small village church school, only 80 kids in total over four year groups - 7 to 11), teachers were mostly women and that included the liaison with the diocese.

About 15 years ago the school governors approved a supply of sanity pads in the first aid room. They had to...

Because at least eight girls a year started their periods while at school. And probably half that number were completely unprepared - to be fair very few parents expect it.

Youngest that I know if was 7.

So if that’s reality in a charitable religious school in a rich, rural county in Britain, it’s probably a bigger issue in the larger inner city primary schools.


108 posted on 07/02/2022 5:32:42 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: Morgana

BS! There are always exceptions for things like this. What went unasked was who got a 10 year old pregnant?


109 posted on 07/02/2022 6:23:31 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Morgana

Rather, a 10-year-old child abuse victim was forced to commit murder in Indiana after her home state of Ohio barred it, and she rejected adoption. If someone throws a child in your house or vehicle, then you are still obligated to care for it and find safety for it. “It’s my house/vehicle” will not justify murder of an innocent person. But here a few months of discomfort is rejected for a lifetime and eternity of guilt, unless she finds repentant faith in the Lord Jesus.


110 posted on 07/02/2022 6:29:19 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Morgana

I most whole heartedly agree. There is much more here than meets the eye and this “6 weeks and 3 days” BS is just that.

Further, the inclusion/intrusion of these ‘doctors’ specializing in child abuse (for the one) and abortion (the other) is just a Planned Parenthood contrived-showcase supporting argument to keep on murdering babies and making billions of dollars.

There are literally no lengths to which PP and those who support their murder incorporated won’t go.


111 posted on 07/02/2022 6:38:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MalPearce

I’m a woman and I have a good understanding of how this works. I also started very young, at 11, and that was many decades ago.

Human biology happens. I know all about that.

I don’t like broad generalizations and I didn’t make one.

There are debatable issues here but I’m not going to take up that debate with you.


112 posted on 07/02/2022 8:54:00 AM PDT by BlueHorseShoe
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To: Secret Agent Man

Rabid extremists like yourself is the reason babies will keep getting aborted in majority of USA. People do not like extremists from both sides. Helpful legislation in major population centers can not become law when people read that such extreme views as forcing a 10 year victim of abuse to go full term pregnancy. Shameful!


113 posted on 07/02/2022 11:29:32 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable.)
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To: Red6

Extremists like you is the reason sensible pro-life laws will not pass in majority of US population areas. Shameful!


114 posted on 07/02/2022 11:32:36 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable.)
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To: entropy12
LOL, "rabid extremists" who have principles instead of situational ethics. Shameful of you to condemn those who want to protect the most helpless among us.

I noticed you never answered my post about your spastic whining about making a 10 year-old raise a baby.

If that's the quality of your arguments, you are a moron.

115 posted on 07/02/2022 11:34:23 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: entropy12

LOL, “sensible,” like “sensible gun control,” the cry of the middle-of-the road coward.


116 posted on 07/02/2022 11:37:13 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: luckystarmom

“ I would think there are exceptions for life of the mother”

there are, but not for the nebulous “health” of the mother.


117 posted on 07/02/2022 11:40:19 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Morgana

Riiiight!


118 posted on 07/02/2022 11:41:52 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: daniel1212

“Rather, a 10-year-old child abuse victim was forced to commit murder in Indiana after her home state of Ohio barred it, and she rejected adoption.”

That’s a reasonable emotional and moral response, but I would be wary of legislating on the basis of such an oversimplification. Hard cases make bad laws, but reinforcing one societal problem to eliminate another isn’t a great solution either.

A middle-aged man - an establishment straight-up pillar of the community - was raping my mom. She was only 13. Eventually my grandfather found out- because he got her pregnant. Rather than report that pedo to the police, he bussed my mom out of the county, to a “home for Wayward girls” (basically, a borstal, or juvie). She endured months of education in effect telling her she was a whore for having “loose morals”, before eventually having her newborn forcibly taken off her. I thrown into a really crappy orphanage system, and finally got adopted at the age of 7 after having nine different foster families.

Neither my mom nor me got out of that situation intact.

I have a disassociative personality disorder. Between ages 4 and 7, I maintained a packed suitcase, on the assumption that no matter how much I liked a foster family, at any time on any day a social worker could turn up and take me away.

My mom, by all accounts, was fine until she was being molested, she had a complete breakdown when she found out she was pregnant, but what REALLY sent her doolally was months in a detention center PURELY for being pregnant, followed by a forced adoption.

Coerced abortion for a pre-teen who’s been raped is pro-murder, can scar the girl mentally for life, and it can benefit the rapist. That goes without saying.

Coerced adoption under the exact same circumstances really is no better for the girl, and it also is an ideal get-out for the rapist.

Ideally the best solution is to give the girl all the moral and financial support, counselling and love that she needs to bring the baby up - but unfortunately in some cases the girl is simply far too young and far too underdeveloped to be able to carry the baby to term.

In such circumstances, there is no guaranteed right solution. The rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness you have in America are just as inalienable to a child victim as they are to an unborn fetus in her. It may be the case that there is no way the unborn child can live, and forcing her to carry it will jeopardise her own life.

Only a sick society would ever trade one life off against the other over a point of principle.

If you’re going to outlaw abortion, you have to massively improve access to education, counselling, mental and physical health services, AND start prosecuting rapists instead of protecting them.


119 posted on 07/02/2022 12:41:04 PM PDT by MalPearce
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To: entropy12
Fence sitters like you are the reason why late term abortions on demand, tax payer supported and for under age girls without parental consent/knowledge were or are a reality.

Since we're all about “feelings” how's that one? Ever hear of an ad homonym attack? Another fallacy. But why not? You haven't argued using a single fact of logically constructed argument yet...

Some issues are all or nothing. The “fence sitter,” the so called “moderate,” wants to feel good about himself but fails to realize a few things:

1. Compromises do not mean it is morally right, consistent, constitutional, economically viable/most efficient or logical.

2. Some issues are all or nothing and if you are on the fence, you are in reality for it, 100%, all of it, in every aspect, even if in your mind you try to come up with some rationalization like “Well, I support it but only in the first trimester,” for rape, incest...

If the door is opened, it will get slammed wide open eventually and that is true in the US, Germany, France, Italy... and in the US for the individual states. As time went on, the rules for abortion become more lax and government even began funding it... The same is true with gun rights. You are either for gun rights or you're not, and the fence sitter is basically someone that feels good about himself but is for gun control, even though he wants to be liked by everyone, appear smart, and wants to say what feels and sounds good to both sides... Yes, what feels and sounds good... But is it consistent, logical, economically viable/efficient, moral, constitutional... is that what nature or history tells us happens? You won't hear any arguments based on anything... just appeals to feelings as you did.

120 posted on 07/02/2022 1:49:34 PM PDT by Red6
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