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The Sultan executed the envoys bearing the letter which led to the Battle of Ain Jalut which the Mamluks won - stopping further Mongol westward expansion. In this case the Muslims did the West a solid since had the Mongols taken out the Sultanate, they would have razed Jerusalem and the path would have been open right across north Africa and into Spain and Europe.
1 posted on 05/29/2022 10:11:56 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Quite modern as well as ancient. Thanks for posting this.

2 posted on 05/29/2022 10:15:33 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Borges

Sabre-rattling at its best. Always worth trying. Even God uses it in His warnings about His impending Great Tribulation.


4 posted on 05/29/2022 10:22:27 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 ("This is Thy pleasure, that Thou art my joy")
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To: Borges

Thanks for posting this, and yes, good point. The Muslims did the west a huge favor by defeating the Mongols. The Muslims of that era (13th century) were progressive, tolerant rulers compared to the utter savagery of the Mongols.


5 posted on 05/29/2022 10:33:01 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Borges

So it wasn’t an invitation to a weekend bar-b-q


6 posted on 05/29/2022 10:36:00 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm Jimmy Crack Corn and I don't care)
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To: Borges

The Han Chinese used this method to obtain submission without battles when they could, as did the Chinese emperors with Koreans and others when they could - we are superior and better you be a vassal than your people be slain by us.

Putin wanted Ukraine leaders to behave that way.


7 posted on 05/29/2022 10:36:20 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Borges

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Mongol_Empire_map_2.gif


8 posted on 05/29/2022 10:38:12 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Borges

Did the mongol king submit a retraction?


10 posted on 05/29/2022 10:42:30 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: Borges

The Battle of Ain Jalut was the beginning of the end for the Mongol empire. The Mamluk innovation of the horseshoe was an important factor in that battle. Another interesting fact is that the Mamluk Sultanate consisted of Russians, Turks, and Caucasians (original term: people of the Caucasus region) who were former slave soldiers that revolted and overthrew the Arab Caliph in Egypt just 10 years earlier in 1250. Mamluk literally means “slave” in Turkish.


11 posted on 05/29/2022 10:45:49 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Borges

Some extra context - Actually this battle was a bit more complicated. The Mongol army was accompanied by (but not allied with) some late Crusader Christian. The Crusaders stayed neutral and recognized Mongols as the greater threat than the Egyptian Mamluk Muslims.


13 posted on 05/29/2022 10:54:51 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Borges

Davy Crockett wrote that letter and just pretended it was from the great Khannnnnnn!


19 posted on 05/29/2022 2:23:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Borges

“Resist and you will suffer the most terrible catastrophes.” Cowards alway talk a big game.

History: one Frank defeated on average 25 Saracens and ten Templars on average defeated 300 Saracens.

Why did some of the Crusades fail? Lacks of support.
And why did the Apollos stop at 16 in 1972? Lack of support.

If they wanted to, the Americans and Europeans could delete the Saracens today in day. If they wanted to.


21 posted on 05/29/2022 3:14:53 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: Borges

Actually, the previous Golden Horde invasion was the Mongol invasion of Europe. When Ogedei Khan died, Batu, the head of the GH, stopped his invasion of Europe and fell back to the Russian steppes. The Il-Khans, Hulagu’s faction was focused only on the Middle East.


33 posted on 06/17/2022 9:38:03 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Asking celebrities to analyze politics is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer to be a judge at a cook-off.)
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To: Borges
Never got into the whole Mongol thing like most here have.

As far as being ruthless? OH..I dunno, The Normans did pretty good in that regard concerning the total destruction of England after William the bastard took over.
Fail to swear total allegiance? That is OK, They just killed and burned every GD thing in site and left the rest to die of starvation.
4 Norman kings..and then came the Plantagenets. The longest family feud in the history of the world.

35 posted on 08/02/2022 5:47:29 PM PDT by crz
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