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1 posted on 05/24/2022 9:03:16 AM PDT by re_tail20
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but the automobile has already won...

I wish I had an automobile. Sadly, I only have a motor-vehicle.

2 posted on 05/24/2022 9:07:09 AM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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I like this kind of thinking! In California such dynamic thinking on the part of the California High Speed Rail Authority is leading to the construction of the world’s most expensive bike trail!

(-:


3 posted on 05/24/2022 9:10:53 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce. ☭☭☭)
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When I was in college in the 70’s I knew a guy who was in pre-law. His goal was to be an environmental lawyer. He seriously believed that nobody should be able to go anywhere they could not walk to. In his mind, the vast majority of people would live their lives within 30 miles of where they were born. He also believed it was immoral for people in snow country to have fresh vegetables and fruit in the winter. If you couldn’t grow it yourself, you could not have it. IMHO it seems that everything that has happened since is part of a slow march toward this kind of world.


4 posted on 05/24/2022 9:16:38 AM PDT by beef (Let’s go Baizuo!)
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I heard conservative Shaun Thompson on his radio show go on about how oil is NOT a fossil fuel, but rather a renewable by the earth itself. I’d heard this before but not for a long time.


6 posted on 05/24/2022 9:19:36 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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Nearly 100 cities also closed downtown areas to automobiles and even more reduced the capacities of many streets to move traffic.

Chicago tried closing State Street to all traffic except buses. It failed miserasbly.

Rockford, Illinois tried closing downtown Main Street to all traffic, turning it into a pedestrian promenade. That failed worse as downtown Rockford doesn't HAVE downtown pedestrians, only people who work in the courthouse, the jails, and the office buildings for lawyers and bail bondsmen that support the court house and the jail. It did make the folks driving north-south to take a serious detour.

The roadway has since been restored, but the construction and deconstruction of the promenade was a waste of money that neither Rockford nor Illinois has.
7 posted on 05/24/2022 9:20:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("It's one thing if it's a minor incursion" - Joe Biden)
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Colorado is long past salvation and redemption IMHO.


8 posted on 05/24/2022 9:21:16 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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Funny, I don’t see car or oil companies complaining about the “transition” from fossil fuels to windmills. I suppose they know something and are tossing the gas/oil dependent middle class under the bus (pun intended)


9 posted on 05/24/2022 9:21:39 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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The second strategy was based on making better automobiles.

The second strategy relies on what a "better" automobile is.

To the EPA, a "better" car is lighter, less powerful (smaller engines, more restrictions on exhaust), smaller.

To the NHTSA, a "better" car is safer: larger, adequate power, heavier, more airbags, belts and headrests for all, lots more gizmos (abs, traction control, cameras/screens, and soon drunk driving detection).

Except for the part about more gizmos, these goals are at odds with each other. The car companies attempts to sell vehicles that people want require circumvention, loopholes (CAFE obliterated large luxury cars and station wagons and created the luxury pickup/SUV market), or mutual capitulation (they all pretend to love EVs now, because they have to).

All of this is at the expense of long-term reliability, which is not covered by EPA or NHTSA, as expensive and fragile gizmos combine with CAFE

There is a reason why the values of the late '60s sports and muscles cars are skyhigh. That's where you have the intersection of high value safety features (dual chamber master cylinders, lap belts) but few restrictions on power.

Every time technology manages to catch up on power WITH the restrictions, the regulators view it as an opportunity to ratchet things up more. So now we have gimpy CVTs and high-compression turbo 4s in vehicles that need six or eight cylinders for long term life. Despite these desparate moves, the CAFE standards ratchet up more to force EVs and smaller vehicles that people DON'T want.
13 posted on 05/24/2022 9:33:40 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("It's one thing if it's a minor incursion" - Joe Biden)
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My neighbor’s new chevy gasoline pick-up gets 10 mpg. The only change from the 70s is worse in that regard.


18 posted on 05/24/2022 10:30:38 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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With the government sponsored deterioration of our roads and highways, do not buy a vehicle that sits low.


19 posted on 05/24/2022 10:35:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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"...hatred of cars may have been more justified then than it is today. Cars were gas guzzlers, getting just 13.5 miles per gallon."

Justified? At least back then, you could tell the difference between makes, models and years. Used to be able to tell what kind of car pulled up behind you in the rearview mirror at night. Today, just belly-button cars. Everyone looks the same. Even saw a commercial for one of the SUVs. A line of silver SUVs parked in the pick-up line at an elementary school. One of the SUVs in the middle of the line was black. The voice over said their SUV stands out in a crowd. Haha, they had to change the color so the viewer would notice which one they were talking about.

Car designers suck. After they line all the leftist political leaders and social media oligarchs against the wall to be shot, car designers should be next....

20 posted on 05/24/2022 10:36:38 AM PDT by Hatteras
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“In its simplest form, the theory is that carbon present in the magma beneath the crust reacts with hydrogen to form methane as well as a raft of other mainly alkane hydrocarbons. The reactions are more complicated than this, with several intermediate stages. Particular mineral rocks such as granite and other silicon based rocks act as catalysts, which speed up the reaction without actually becoming involved or consumed in the process.

Experiments have shown that under extreme conditions of heat and pressure it is possible to convert iron oxide, calcium carbonate and water into methane, with hydrocarbons containing up to 10 carbon atoms being produced by Russian scientists last century and confirmed in recent US experiments. The absence of large quantities of free gaseous oxygen in the magma prevents the hydrocarbons from burning and therefore forming the lower energy state molecule carbon dioxide. The conditions present in the Earth’s mantle would easily be sufficient for these small hydrocarbon chains to polymerise into the longer chain molecules found in crude oil.”

http://viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html


21 posted on 05/24/2022 10:40:07 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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In the early 1970s my uncle was tasked by the Governor of Colorado to be the handler for the (new) EPA representatives who were trying to implement environmental rules for highway building. They’d be on a construction site, and my uncle would put his arm around the guy, then point to something else, saying, “How about that! Let’s go see what’s going on over there...” Then he’d drive the guy back to the airport and make sure got on a plane.

The national highway system could not be built today.


22 posted on 05/24/2022 10:58:25 AM PDT by nicollo
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There’s nothing wrong with developing walkable cities and walkable towns and walkable neighborhoods.

I actually think that’s an awesome thing, to be able to walk to school, to work, to a restaurant, to a grocery store, to the coffee shop, to a bookstore.

At the same time, looking down on those who drive cars, seeing them as “part of the problem,” is woke, virtue signaling garbage.


24 posted on 05/24/2022 11:46:30 AM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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Riding a bus, subway or interurban is like taking a walk in southside Chicago after dark if your skin is light colored.


35 posted on 05/24/2022 2:48:27 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Ugh... this half-assed non-sense again. At some point expanding highways gets to the point of diminishing returns, once that point is reached other options must be considered.

Pet peeves about the anti-car non-sense, if you are going to remove the ability to park cars, the ability for those who work and live in the area to get their daily needs and get to and from work must be preserved. Put bluntly before blocking roads, and removing parking lots, make sure the public transportation is actually useful.


38 posted on 05/24/2022 4:17:30 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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