Posted on 05/22/2022 12:59:48 PM PDT by Cathi
RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL – Part One: The Road To War – For years, from Mali to Afghanistan, I have worked for peace and risked my life for it. It is therefore not a question of justifying war, but of understanding what led us to it. [….]
Let’s try to examine the roots of the [Ukrainian] conflict. ---------------------- (Cathi: This is the best, most thorough, least biased explanation from an expert on the current Ukrainian, Russian conflict that I have read.)
(Excerpt) Read more at riotimesonline.com ...
“In the north, the Chernobyl power plant was occupied immediately to prevent acts of sabotage. The images of Ukrainian and Russian soldiers guarding the plant together are of course not shown.”
Nonsense. Of course they were...and there was a Ukrainian BUK battery operating not that far away from the suspected launch site.
It wouldn't be the first time Ukraine shot down a civilian airplane either.
You really need to quit assuming that everyone knows you intimately. You may even be well known by many, but you are not probably known, let alone well known, by the majority.
I think I know of you. If my memory serves me correctly you are the one who always posts articles on cold fusion. That is not a topic I know much about, nor is it something I am interested in, which means I don't read your posts. So, I really don't know Jack Shitt about you either. 🙂
You seem to be thin skinned and/or looking for a fight. Is that the case?
No on both. I didn't start this, You did. By your rude response. I disagreed with your saying that it was biased, because it wasn't biased. Furthermore, I said you must be a Ukraine/Zelea nskyy cheerleader if you actually do believe that it was biased write up. But then I also said, I apologize if that is not the case.
You could have easily answered me with 1) you were being sardonic & 2) you are not one of these cheerleaders. No rudeness on your part, and no misunderstanding on my part of your position regarding this topic as well.
Remember most of us are on this board because we have more in common than we have disagreements about what is going on, and what is happening to our country., and we want to work together to return it to its original intentions by it founders. 🙂
“Could it be because they believe so deeply in the ushering in of a One World Government, that they refuse to see that effort as even ever having a possibility of failing?”
The rest of the world has begun to push back as we falter and we are slow to accept the change and frankly are now demonstrating desperation.
Trying to financially and economically destroy a nuclear powered country rich in the resources the world needs and then adding insult to injury by becoming a belligerent in this basically unimportant military conflict under the guise of defending “democracy” is just too stupid for belief.
We urgently need new leadership.
Even in Donetsk and Luhansk, despite having Russian speaking majorities, the majority of the population is still Ukrainian. The author himself admits that the referenda and the Minsk agreements were for autonomy and not independence or reunion with Russia. Only in Crimea would I acknowledge that Russia has any valid claim.
As for Ukrainian shelling in Donbas, this would have been part of a military operation — like that of Russia — of the central government to reassert control over its territory and should not be portrayed as some sort of terrorist attack on the civilian population. This was an internal conflict within Ukraine and none of Russia's business.
And finally, as for this being a proxy war between Russia and NATO, there would have been no war at all if not for the Russian invasion. Even now, the war would end if Russia would just go home.
Unfortunately that won't happen soon. Even the Republicans are totally useless when it comes to Ukraine. Hopefully, we can take back control for the House & Senate, but I'm afraid that will not help us regarding this conflict, unless the majority of MAGA candidates win and actually are MAGA people.
Let's pray that is the reality. 🙂
Exactly. Too pro-Russian as if Putin was the savior of Europe.
No concept of the Red Chinese philosophy of “Fight, fight, talk, talk”. Used extensively by Hanoi while our diplomats fell for it.
No mention of the Russia’s firing the chemical artillery thermobaric shells from their soil against the Ukrainian army in the East.
Nothing about Russia troops or former troops, I.e. the Wagner forces, being used in Ukraine disguised as Donnas Russian speakers, etc.
I smell a red rat here, a “disinformatzia” operation.
Needs a lot more examination.
I must assume, Kevmo, that you are one of the cheerleaders,
***another assumption. Perhaps it makes sense for me to CONCLUDE rather than assume that you are a straightforward putinista who couldn’t see propoganda if it were labelled as such.
May you have a blessed life.
So I gave you a link and you did not bother to check obviously.
How about missiles? They took out the Russian flagship using missiles from a drone.
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The UA does not have that sort of armament. Moskva was sunk by multiple Neptune (Harpoon) missile strikes has ~700lb warhead; small drones may have over-watched the target; the missiles were launched from shore.
The Orcs already tried to destroy another very important concrete bridge with causing only minor damage. No missiles have enough explosive short a tactical nuke.
I see no link. And since you’re pushing bs I doubt I will give any such link any priority.
that’s not the only thing you assumed
Search War in Ukraine on youtube and stop with the slanders, it does not help.
Got a link?
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/buk.htm
The Buk (beech) air defense missile system was developed to replace the previous Kub. Its industrial designation is 9K37. Its reporting name in the West is SA-11 or Gadfly. Development of this system commenced in 1972. It was a successor to the Kub-M3. It entered service with the Soviet Army in 1980. The Buk has been exported to a number of countries. After collapse of the Soviet Union a number of air defense systems were passed on to successor states. Currently Russia operates around 350 of these systems. Other operators are Azerbaijan, Belarus, Cyprus, Egypt, Finland, Georgia, India, North Korea, Ukraine, Syria, Vietnam and Venezuela.
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