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US Social Security Administration Out of Control
Self ^ | May 21, 2022 | Self

Posted on 05/21/2022 6:45:11 PM PDT by 4Runner

We cannot believe this has happened. We sent business correspondence to our local U.S. Social Security Administration office two weeks ago by certified mail, return receipt requested. The documents were received by the Office, as we received the green Cert Mail card in return verifying same.

Included in the envelope we had sent to SSA was an official SSA form whose instructions were to return the form to the local SSA office. Along with the SSA form was a detailed cover letter, and documentation SSA requested confirming legal status.

Ten days later, we received an envelope in the mail from the local SSA office. The envelope contained every single document we had mailed them. The originals. There was no SSA cover letter, no SSA explanation as to why our documents were being returned to us, no SSA reference to the matter we were communicating about, nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Two pages were stamped as "Received", the other pages were not stamped.

This has to be someone's definition of institutional insanity. Someone had to be working really, really hard for a very long time, to bring us to this level of malfeasance. We are truly, truly lost as a nation. And these government employees earn six figure salaries? Good God almighty.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bureaucrats; federalgovernment; socialsecurity; ssa
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To: M-cubed
Lock box does not matter.

People paid 12.4% of their wages into a fund. At gun point I may add. That this fund was promptly robbed by the people who were suppose to hold it does not mean that their getting a fraction of what they paid in back "welfare".

what was the interest rate on it?

Since the money was "loaned" to the federal government I would say the savings bond rate should apply.

Last time I checked that was 10%.

41 posted on 05/21/2022 8:35:14 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: 4Runner

So you sent in a SSA form along with a bunch of documents. SSA received them, almost certainly copied into some sort of electronic repository, and the original documents were returned to you.

Your form was either processed, in which case you’ll be getting another letter shortly, or was placed in a queue to be processed, usually in the order in which it was received.

The worst thing I see here is that they failed to provide you with a return cover letter. That’s not exactly cause for pearl clutching, and certainly not the histrionics in your post.


42 posted on 05/21/2022 8:37:30 PM PDT by Terabitten (Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor...)
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To: Tell It Right

Interesting article on the “Social Security Trust Fund” if you have not seen it:

https://moneymorning.com/2017/03/31/the-social-security-trust-fund-is-just-a-stack-of-ious-in-a-west-virginia-filing-cabinet/

If you want to humiliate your local congress-critter just ask them about it. They will get that “deer in the headlights” look. They might try to lie or bluff their way out of it.

Fun for the whole family!


43 posted on 05/21/2022 8:39:59 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: plain talk
If instead of sending the money to SSA I could just buy US savings bonds and cut out the middle man in loaning money to the government I would have enough to have retired ten years ago.
44 posted on 05/21/2022 8:40:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: 4Runner

They were just returning your documents, seems like normal procedure as that was also my recent experience.


45 posted on 05/21/2022 8:42:29 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
You are conflating Social Security with Social Security Insurance.

The substance of your statement is correct, but SSI actually stands for Supplemental Security Income.

46 posted on 05/21/2022 8:43:24 PM PDT by Terabitten (Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor...)
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To: BobL

I contributed by force since I was 16. Its not my fault what they did with my money.

A classmate of mine has worked, maybe a whole yr in his life. He’s been faking medical problems for 40 yrs. HE is the welfare leach.


47 posted on 05/21/2022 8:46:30 PM PDT by roving
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To: Palio di Siena

It took a hearing and a labor attorney, and two and a half years to get my disability. But since then it’s been fine.

CC


48 posted on 05/21/2022 8:50:43 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
People paid 12.4% of their wages into a fund. At gun point I may add. That this fund was promptly robbed by the people who were suppose to hold it does not mean that their getting a fraction of what they paid in back “welfare”. <<

I agree!...If the money I “contributed” over the last 60 some years was compounded at 10%....
Id give you my SS as charity ..just for the write off..../s

49 posted on 05/21/2022 8:52:58 PM PDT by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yep, that’s the one.


50 posted on 05/21/2022 8:56:31 PM PDT by TropicanaRose
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To: 4Runner

Try the old Northam regime’s incompetent Virginia Employment Commission. Some don’t know the difference between “overpayment” and “never paid” re being unemployed.

Now you know one of the reasons Republican Youngkin won the governorship, Lt. Gov. And State’s Attorney General positions plus much of the state legislature.


51 posted on 05/21/2022 9:10:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Sacajaweau

The program is ACP


52 posted on 05/21/2022 9:19:03 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: 4Runner

When my Canadian wife and I were working on getting her permanent resident alien status, we submitted all the paperwork properly, and were sent all the materials back claiming our marriage license was missing. THE MARRIAGE LICENSE WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THEY SENT BACK!

We DID get traction from our Congressman’s office (they were trying to send us back to square one because THEY sent notice to an obsolete address when we gave them THREE MONTH NOTICE of our move. Congressman Manzullo’s office was excellent and fast.

We also did better when we went down to the office in person. When we went to one office early on, the older woman at the window, who seemed to be punishing everyone in her line tried with us, proudly telling us that some rules had changed and we had to start again. My wife was disheartened. I asked for a supervisor, a professional black woman one-half “V. Vanderhoof’s” age looked at our paperwork, and told the hostile old clerk that because our date stamps were earlier, we were under the old rules. We were indebted to her calm, wise and correct intervention.

That worked as well as it did because we went to the office. The Social Security office isn’t fun, but usually SOMEONE there knows something.


53 posted on 05/21/2022 9:20:27 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (“SollOZzo is known as 'The Turk.' He's supposed to be very good with a knife,"-T.Hagen)
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To: 4Runner

What is your question?


54 posted on 05/21/2022 9:24:48 PM PDT by Az Joe (Biden is the enemy, not Putin.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Exactly


55 posted on 05/21/2022 9:25:29 PM PDT by Az Joe (Biden is the enemy, not Putin.)
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To: 4Runner

They don’t have time to explain to everyone who sends them stuff what is happening. You got the originals back because they made copies of everything. Sonds pretty conscientious to me.

You are wasting your time worrying about it.


56 posted on 05/21/2022 9:26:33 PM PDT by Az Joe (Biden is the enemy, not Putin.)
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To: 4Runner

SSA promised a SS card. Five years ago. They’re still promising


57 posted on 05/21/2022 10:06:22 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
You are conflating Social Security with Social Security Insurance.

It's still run by the Social Security program.

And SS itself is still partially welfare, for some people. Do you know the return for the first person to receive SS? As people live longer nowadays, they end up getting paid more than they put in, even accounting for interest/inflation. A proper entitlement turns into welfare.
58 posted on 05/21/2022 10:06:24 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Sparticus
From the very beginning the money payed paid in by workers went out to pay for those workers' elderly relatives. That money you payed paid in never went into an account with your name on it. Instead, it was payed paid out to Grandma and Grandpa and your parents. Any excess was sucked up into the general fund. Whatever Social Security you receive will be payed paid by your children.

Regards,

59 posted on 05/21/2022 10:54:01 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m going to disagree with your assessment. I’m a federal employee—I’ve worked at my agency for 27 years. I graduated at the top of my class in high school and college (University of CA and Georgetown). I hire smart people like me (or try to). The feds of 2020 are not the same feds of 1960-70…we are more educated and we manage the contractors mostly—that said, this SSA story is dismaying.


60 posted on 05/21/2022 11:03:37 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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