Posted on 05/21/2022 7:32:32 AM PDT by PK1991
Since the American engineered coup in 2014 that brought Zelensky to power, the American and NATO have been quietly setting up the command centre for NATO operation against the Russians under the Azovstal steel plant.
3 major goals were achieved in the last 8 years, a command centre, a major biochem weapon station and a regiment of neo Nazi soldiers.
All these were done stealthily, top secret military stuff. And they executed these so successfully under the nose of the Russians...without the Russians knowing?
With so many top generals and scientists shuffling in and out of the secretive underground fortress, with so many soldiers, and with so many logistics, biochemical weapons in the facility, it was a very well kept secret!
Putin was not appointed to head the KGB as a political appointee. He earned his spurs as an intelligent secret service. đź‘®
To be appointed as head of KGB, unlike the head of CIA, the latter a political appointment, meaning any idiot or clown could also be offered the job, it meant that Putin was the best of the best in KGB/Russia.
Can't imagine how sleepy Joe is going to test his wits against the best of the KGB.
Putin and the Russians did not know of the death machine under the Azovstal steel plant?
His original plan was to take Kiev? All his tanks and heavy military vehicles were lined up on the roads to Kiev, clearly visible by satellite images.
No need guessing. The Americans and Ukrainians knew exactly what Putin was going to do. He is going to attack Kiev. The people in the Azovtal stronghold too thought they were very safe, very secure, unknown and undetected by the Russians. And their daily activities continued unchanged.
Everything was normal in Mariupol. In fact, the Americans and NATO must have felt very safe and no one left the fortress.
If only they knew what Putin was up to. If only they knew that they have been exposed, all the big fish would have fled.
Was it American and NATO arrogance, or was it Putin's brilliance, the attack on Kiev was expected but fizzled out quickly.
By then, the Russian troops had all encircled the Azovstal fortress. Too late to run. No one is going to escape the dragnet of Putin.
Did any of the very clever American analysts and intelligence officers see this coming?
How could they miss the signs, the decoy, the diversionary strategy of Putin, look West and strike East?
Putin's deception was as perfect as you can get from the point of military strategy.
Of course the arrogance and stupidity of the Americans and NATO helped, making it so easy for Putin to round them up in one move.
Now, as the Chinese strategists like to call it, Putin is hauling in the net, with all the big fish and crocodiles inside.
Putin is as good a military genius as he is expected. And he did not fail his believers with this war of deception in Ukraine. Now the Americans are pulling every string they could find to get in touch with Putin to release the big fish and crocodiles in the Azovstal fortress.
The UN Sec Gen Antonio Guterres, and the Pope Francis had to make personal trips to Moscow to see Putin.
After all the hard work plotting to capture the Azovstal fortress, including the big fish and crocodiles and all the biochemical weapons inside, it would not be so easy to appease and persuade Putin to give up his prized catches so easily. Now the Americans and NATO are at the mercy of Putin.
Do not be surprised if the desperate Americans and NATO would do a last ditch assault in Mariupol to free their valued generals and scientists.
When Lt Trevor Cadieu is only in charge of a biochem weapon unit, one can easily imagine how many more generals would out rank him in the fortress. Then there would be the commanding officer of this top secret facility and his deputies.
The Brits, French, Germans and many other NATO top brass are likely to be in the same hole under the steel plant.
These are early Christmas presents for Putin, though they came with a lot of planning and effort.
For the slightest indication that the fortress' existence had been exposed, or Putin's game plan was to capture the fortress and all the top brass and biochemical weapons in them, all the top brass would have scooted long before the war started, and all the biochemical weapons would have be transferred elsewhere.
Now they would be top exhibits in Putin's case against the Americans and NATO, to be shown to the whole wide world.
Never had the Americans and NATO been in such dire straits, with their balls being squeezed by Putin and they could not do anything about it short of an outright military confrontation, an assault on the Azovstal steel plant with the full force of American and NATO forces.
No amount of propaganda can distract the success of Putin in his set up to capture the Azovstal fortress lock, stock and barrel.
These would now become very expensive chips in the pocket of Putin, and the Americans and NATO would have to pay a very heavy price for their return.
How many generals or military strategists today could claim such a success against the American Empire and NATO?
And to think of it, the Americans and NATO still did not have any clue what was Putin up to.
Still guessing and spreading nonsense about the intent of Putin, and still claiming fake victories against Putin everyday.
None of those are Russian media outlets, which was your claim. I already know that the West engages in PROPAGANDA.
Please try again.
You are doing good today.
Monkey Pox is now being served at deli in Mariupol.
And the neocons. Victoria Nuland worked for Cheney, Obama, and Biden. There is one notable administration missing from her resume and one where we didn’t invade anything. Here is a video of Linda Grahamnesty telling Ukraine troops we will fight with them back in 2016. Note the hand wringing too. He is like a cartoon villain in this. Linda starts speaking at 1:10 into the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMMvSiVkjfg&t=83s
There is more information about the conflict in Ukraine than any previous war. You can look at nearly real time satellite imagery, photos and videos from the ground along the line of contact, and if you want to take the time nearly real time reporting of events by people in the area.
One problem for the Russian military is that real time reporting. Partisans don't need to do more than post a video of a column passing their house, or just report the time and direction of overflying aircraft to assist with combat efforts.
And then there is the drone footage, rapidly geo-located with open source mapping data.
If you want to you can watch the fires created by artillery in near real time from NASA's fire tracking satellite data.
Another example of Russian propagandists claiming an idea which simple common sense shows to be false. Russian government controlled media outlets are no more reliable than some US publication like the Washington Post. Why would they be?
There is a plentiful supply of fake Russian media output regarding the invasion of Ukraine. Remember what they said about the Moskva?
Remember their story about repelling a Ukrainian assault on Snake Island, complete with photos of dead bodies?
A few weeks later and you can read the obituaries in Russia of the Russian special forces guys that got killed when the Ukrainians destroyed their helicopter with a drone fired rocket. The dead bodies were dead Russians, not what the fake Russian media said.
Thanks for posting a great example of why these wild stories should be in the fiction section.
The Moskva was struck with missiles launched from a Ukrainian missile launcher that was made in Ukraine and fired Ukrainian made missiles. How would NATO have anything to do with the missiles made in Ukraine?
I wonder if the same writer ever thought about where the anti-aircraft missiles both the Ukrainians and the Russians use came from. Does he think they are from NATO?
The Ukrainian Neptun missile uses an enhanced version of a Russian anti-ship missile design. Ukraine has had a defense industry since it was forced into the Soviet Union. In fact the Moskva itself was designed and built in Ukraine.
No need for the rest of us to do so. You do it all the time. Are you getting paid to post the Russian propaganda you post?
Just to amuse us could you explain why you believe that to be true?
“No need for the rest of us to do so. You do it all the time. Are you getting paid to post the Russian propaganda you post?”
Actually, I don’t post from Russian websites, I only use them to find out what’s going on over there.
As long as you know that the DC Sewer is at war with Russia..
And I’m not rooting for King Brandon’s sewer..
Pelosi,McConnell, Schiff, Mitt, Schumer,etc.. all can take dirt naps in Ukraine.. it’s their war..
They are identifying Russian propaganda.
You apparently are unaware that propaganda can be more than just media; propaganda can be via interviews with government officials, content in speeches, reports from official sources, photographs; virtually anything that can be transmitted or communicated.
Anyway, since you are fixated strictly on “media,” I call your attention to the following links about your beloved Russia’s propaganda machine. You eagerly denigrate any unfavorable press about Russia as propaganda, yet embrace as gospel anything pro-Russia — are you with Secondary Infektion? –- and you gleefully “tow the Party line” for Russia.
A partial list:
(Note to moderator: If it is not permissible to post any of these links, please delete as you deem appropriate):
https://kioski.yle.fi/omat/troll-piece-2-english
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/after-a-week-of-russian-propaganda-i-was-questioning-everything
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/21/russian-propaganda-sputnik-reporter-215511/
https://www.rand.org › pubs › perspectives
https://share.america.gov/rt-and-sputnik-5-facts-to-know/
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/whole-pravda-about-russian-propaganda/
Still ducking my request, I see. Again, please post PROPAGANDA from a Russian news site, and not an opinion piece.
“As long as you know that the DC Sewer is at war with Russia. And I’m not rooting for King Brandon’s sewer.”
If you think the Cold War stopped with the collapse of the Soviet Union you are naĂŻve beyond belief. Moscow never thought it ended, and neither did we. Oh, there have been some very transient “mutual interests” where we “cooperated,” but there has never been any trust between us.
This war could have ended at any time if Russia would have just pulled out its forces and stayed out of Ukraine.
The big warmongers are those who blame the victim for getting mugged.
US $$$ Biolabs in Ukraine
US Money Laundering in Ukraine
The DC Sewer could have pulled out any time too
The point is, the sources are in and of themselves the propaganda!
Take for example the ludicrous fiction about a US Lieutenant General being captured in Ukraine. Cloutier, I believe his name was.
https://mythdetector.ge/en/american-general-who-is-not-in-mariupol-was-arrested-for-the-second-time/
And another.
And another.
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