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First American howitzers bound for Ukraine arrive in Europe as US troops begin training Ukrainians on the cannons
STARS AND STRIPES ^ | APRIL 20, 2022 | CAITLIN DOORNBOS

Posted on 04/22/2022 6:00:05 AM PDT by GonzoII

WASHINGTON – The first U.S. 155mm howitzers from the latest $800 million military aid package for Ukraine have arrived in Europe as American troops there begin training Ukrainian forces on the artillery, a senior U.S. defense official said Wednesday.

Some – but not all – of the 18 howitzers and 40,000 artillery rounds that the U.S. is sending Ukraine as part of the aid authorized April 13 by President Joe Biden have arrived in Europe as the U.S. delivered another four flights of military aid during the past 24 hours, said the official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

In that time, U.S. troops have begun training some Ukrainian forces on how to use the American howitzers, the official said. The training is expected to last “about a week."

The official declined to say where in Europe the training is happening, but said it is not occurring inside Ukraine. After completing the instruction, the Ukrainian troops will return to the fighting and teach other troops how to use the American howitzers.…


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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 155mm; europe; howiter; howitzer; m777; pzh2000; russia; ukraine; war
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To: bk1000

Russia doesn’t care if war is justified or not. If they think they can win, they will start an unjust war, which they just did BTW. They are not starting a war with the US, because they know they will lose badly.


61 posted on 04/22/2022 9:58:39 AM PDT by tarator
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

What units were you with?


62 posted on 04/22/2022 10:06:48 AM PDT by Chainmail (99.36% of all statistics are made up on the spot)
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To: Kevmo

The Budapest Memorandum has no legal bearing. POTUS isn’t Emperor.

I have no side, as both countries are shitholes. Innocent people are getting killed, and I don’t give a shit who started it. It’s better for the world for it to end.

Stick to fusion ridiculous “science” and stay out of nukes.
I had a TS/SCI clearance, did you?


63 posted on 04/22/2022 10:13:48 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Kevmo

Thanks, but I disagree that US domination is required for either.

You have 26 nations in the EU that can handle both.


64 posted on 04/22/2022 10:21:25 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

US domination wasn’t required for signing the Budapest Agreement. Yet we signed it, and so did Russia. We obligated ourselves at that time.

“26 nations in the EU that can handle both.” -—>both what? This is a slowly forming coalition just like the one that kicked Saddam back to Iraq when a regional bully tyrant invaded his neighbor over oil & gas reserves the same way Putin is doing. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts


65 posted on 04/22/2022 10:25:11 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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The Budapest Memorandum has no legal bearing.
*** Asked & Answered:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts?page=142#142

“Not a treaty?”

Registration Number 52241
Title Memorandum on security assurances in connection with Ukraine’s accession to the TREATY on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showDetails.aspx?objid=0800000280401fbb


POTUS isn’t Emperor.
***POTUS represents us, just like the prez of Russia represented them and the prez of Ukraine represented them. That is how accessions to RATIFIED United Nations TREATIES operate. When trolleegator signs a document saying the US is at war with, say Mehico, then we are not at war with mehico because you don’t represent us. If the prez signs such a thing, we are at war because the prez represents us. That’s why creation didn’t fall when Eve bit the apple, it fell when Adam bit it because Adam represented Mankind but Eve didn’t.


I have no side, as both countries are shitholes.
***One shiitehole invaded the other, violating the agreement that the US had with both shiitehole countries. The victim shiitehole country actually HONORED that agreement. They never woulda been invaded if they had kept their nukes. If we don’t get nuclear nonproliferation right, the whole world will be screwed and it’ll be panytwaist appeasers’ fault.


Innocent people are getting killed, and I don’t give a shit who started it.
***You’re simply operating as a troll at this point so I’ll start treating you as a troll.

It’s better for the world for it to end.
***It’s better for the world for it to have not happened, the Ukes never woulda been invaded if they hadn’t given up their nukes.


Stick to fusion ridiculous “science” and stay out of nukes.
***Wait a second, troll. You say stay out of nukes but stick to nuke fusion? How about you just stick to gardening threads and quit being a troll @$$#0/e. If ya don’t give a shiite then post where ya do give a shiite.

I had a TS/SCI clearance, did you?
***DIdn’t you say you don’t give a shiite? You honestly expect us to believe you had some special access to knowledge at some special time [obviously not now] and that it means ANYthing? You shoulda used that access to learn how to stop being an @$$Tr0/e.


66 posted on 04/22/2022 10:35:39 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo
--> “26 nations in the EU that can handle both.” -—>both what?

Both of your previous points.

There is no doubt the globalists want a war. It is great cover to force the great reset.

67 posted on 04/22/2022 10:53:22 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Why should I care what the globalists want or don’t want? Do you want or don’t want nuclear proliferation? We signed a United Nations Nuclear NonProliferation TREATY, and our prez signed the Budapest Accession to that treaty. It was the right thing to do, regardless of globalism or non-globalism.


68 posted on 04/22/2022 10:58:24 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo
Why should I care what the globalists want or don’t want? Do you want or don’t want nuclear proliferation?

Well, if you don't want to engage the current battle of freedom vs. slavery, carry on.

69 posted on 04/22/2022 11:00:49 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Dodging the question. A troll response. It’s because you have no answer.


70 posted on 04/22/2022 11:02:03 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: GonzoII

Too bad we can’t reactivate our old 8” howitzers....we could drop a huge shell onto the hood of a jeep with them.


71 posted on 04/22/2022 11:06:55 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: Kevmo

Already gave you my answer twice.

It simply disagrees with yours.


72 posted on 04/22/2022 11:24:06 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: GonzoII
Also coming are:
Caesar 155mm Artillery System from France

M-48 tanks from Slovenia

From France Milan anti-tank guided missiles

Poland transferring older T-72M variants that it produced under license from the Soviet Union during the Cold War or modernized PT-91 Twardy derivatives

73 posted on 04/22/2022 3:15:14 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: troll

Your answer is a non-answer. The answer of a troll. Twice.


74 posted on 04/22/2022 4:01:56 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: PIF

It is a seriously good gun.


75 posted on 04/22/2022 4:24:54 PM PDT by Thunder 6
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To: Kevmo
You are a hoot!

We have no obligation to get involved in this fracas between Cyrillic speaking cousins.

Oh, can I mention that I had a TS/SCI clearance too?

76 posted on 04/24/2022 10:44:30 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Chainmail

[Not an artilleryman among you! - No matter which 155 they are sending (my guess is that they will be our excess M-198s), our fire control and sighting systems work on a different azimuth scale than the Russian/Ukrainian systems. ]


Based on the following article, it appears the first batch of 18 pieces were M198s, whereas the second batch of 72 pieces will be M777s:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/five-battalions-worth-of-american-howitzers-heading-to-eastern-front-of-ukraine


77 posted on 04/25/2022 12:05:03 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: BobL

Guidance in the Druzhba area seemed to be working quite well.


78 posted on 04/25/2022 12:15:04 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: skeeter

Zelensky is George Washington
How could he possibly know modern tech skeet?

Get with the agora prop ya hear

Or are u an evil putinista

.....I knew it

/s


79 posted on 04/25/2022 12:20:40 AM PDT by wardaddy (Faulkner never knew Free Republic but he coined its nickname...The Sound and The Fury)
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To: glorgau

They are flying in on the invisible and omnipotent Air Zelensky that’s decimated the visible commie Air Force whose pilots are cowering somewhere east of the Volga

Pilots Johnny Quest and Race Bannon at your service

Do try to keep up.


80 posted on 04/25/2022 12:25:21 AM PDT by wardaddy (Faulkner never knew Free Republic but he coined its nickname...The Sound and The Fury)
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