Posted on 03/30/2022 10:10:13 AM PDT by Kevmo
Based upon interactions here on Free Republic and various other sources, this war is a war over resources: Oil, Natural Gas, Water, Aluminum... as well as strategic buffering and traditional tyrant terrorizing.
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050271/posts?page=119#119
To: gleeaikin Look at the Azov Natural Gas Preserves region, and then look at Russia’s Occupation Map. He has captured all the land mass of the preserve and all the access land to the underwater portion of that preserve.
Mariopol happens to be smack dab in the middle of it. All the shoreline of the Azov Sea West to just short of Odessa and then out to sea is the massive Azov Natural Gas Preserve.
Ukraine constituted a potential threat to Russia’s natural gas business.
119 posted on 3/29/2022, 4:13:40 AM by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
The map on the right side, tells you all Russia wanted... Note the Southern Ukraine land grab.
LINK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Note the overlay from the land grab below. All land above this preserve, all land adjacent to the under sea portion of the Azov Natural Gas preserve...
LINK https://64.media.tumblr.com/b0de897e064daa66864fb2d3f06eef80/tumblr_n5k0yfhJmy1rasnq9o1_1280.png
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050519/posts?page=146#146
The Russians weren’t even interested in western Ukraine until oil was found there. Their interest is simply in raping that country. Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.
In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.
But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.
This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc
If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.
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Hunter Biden pitched himself as expert in Russian oligarch targeted by FBI: Devine 3/30/2022, 8:43:16 AM · 19 of 19 gleeaikin to bitt; Kevmo I have already commented elsewhere at FR regarding Russia’s seizure of Crimea, and actions to undermine Donbas and other eastern areas of Ukraine. Petroleum and gas deposits were discovered in both those areas in 2012, exploration contracts had been signed with major oil companies, and then in 2014 Putin seized Crimea and made the surrounding offshore areas forbidden to Ukraine. The oil contracts were canceled. This explains why total distruction is being rained on the cities in those areas. Putin doesn’t give a shxx about the cities and the people he is killing. The treasure is underground.
Now we see another part of the resource wars. Until recently the aluminum ore, bauxite, was being imported to Ukraine from Guinea, and then processed into Aluminia. This was then shipped to Russia for manufacture of aluminum objects of general commerce. The link below explains a lot about this business, and also mentions Hunter Biden.
https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-rusal-guinea/rusals-guinea-bauxite-exports-grind-to-a-halt-amid-ukraine-crisis-idUSL5N2VV3JU
It becomes ever clearer that Putin’s complaint with Ukraine has little to do with mistreated Russian language people in the Ukrainian east, and a whole lot to do with access to and control of important resources.
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050773/posts?page=14#14
I don’t think Putin is after a “formidable barrier” against NATO. He’s after the oil & gas.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050271/posts?page=123#123
Look at the Azov Natural Gas Preserves region, and then look at Russia’s Occupation Map. He has captured all the land mass of the preserve and all the access land to the underwater portion of that preserve.
Mariopol happens to be smack dab in the middle of it. All the shoreline of the Azov Sea West to just short of Odessa and then out to sea is the massive Azov Natural Gas Preserve.
Ukraine constituted a potential threat to Russia’s natural gas business.
Oil and gas reserves were discovered in the 3 places that have gotten the most attention from Russian jack boots. Putin needed a couple of years to organize his takeover of Crimea, and I remember seeing the reports of mercenaries from Russia moving into the Donbass to carry on their warfare back in 2014.
Nov. 2012 was right at the time oil/gas reserves in Crimea, Donbass and Luhansk had been discovered and oil companies were signing contracts to do exploration. No wonder Putin took over Crimea in 2014 and is now trying to take over the other two regions. It also explains why in 2014 he started sending in Mercenaries to east Ukraine to help enable them to defect from Ukraine.
gleeaikin searched for a Google page on this oiltopic. There are a lot of interesting articles to read here. I have not read them yet, but it appears there is probably a lot of petroleum to enable Europe to buy much of their needs from Ukraine rather than Russia.
At the very least, Putin has caused enough destruction in Ukraine, that any oil profits would have to go into rebuilding cities, rather than doing the kind of development that could make Ukraine an important modern European country. What a damn shame!!
https://www.google.com/search?q=Findings+of+oil+and+gas+in+Crimea+and+Donbass+region+around+2012&rlz=1CAJCUZ_enUS847&oq=Findings+of+oil+and+gas+in+Crimea+and+Donbass+region+around+2012&aqs=chrome..69i57.31411j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
What is most astonishing is the fact that so little has been mentioned about the whole Ukraine has petroleum reserves issue, and the places where they are constitute the precise main target of Putin’s massive attacks. He does not care about preserving the cities which he would if he was doing it for the poor ethnic Russians who are being treated so meanly by those nasty Ukrainians. Of course he does not care, what he wants is safely stored under ground. The heck with Ukrainian human beings. And this lack of humanity is reflected in so many consistently pro Putin posts. And their support of the Butcher of Moscow an insult to patriotic FReepers and Putin’s helpless Ukrainian victims.
This Feb. 2019 Forbes article clearly defines the great loss to Ukraine caused by Putin’s 2014 seizure of Crimea. Even if a plebecite should prove the people of Crimea prefer a totalitarian corruption ridden Russia to a corruption ridden Ukraine, at the very least the large “exclusion zone” shown in this article’s map should be reopened to Ukriane’s use and control regarding resources. An excellent sanction against Putin’s greed and cruelty.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2019/02/28/as-russia-closes-in-on-crimeas-energy-resources-what-is-next-for-ukraine/?sh=6aa8dbc529cd
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Mum on Ukraine’s Security Wish List, Putin Instead Sends a Warlord to Mariupol 3/30/2022, 8:57:26 AM · 34 of 44 https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050884/posts?page=34#34 gleeaikin to NorseViking; Kevmo; SoCal Pubbie; Williams; BiglyCommentary; rrrod; Meet the New Boss; All If Putin loves the people of the Ukraine south and east so much why is he flattening their cities. Oh, I guess it is because he is after the petroleum and gas reserves underground so he could care less about anything living or dead above ground. In 2012 reserved were found in the south and east, and exploration contracts signed with major oil companies. Then in 2014 Putin seized Crimea and began to destablize the Donbas area. Now he just wants to destroy all Ukraine life above those deposits. Thousands are being bussed out of the area. Who knows how many really want to go to Russia, and how many are faking it to just get away from being bombed.?
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Another possibility might be providing a travel corrider between Crimea and west Russia. Something like the Danzig Corridor, or the Panama Canal Zone. In addition Ukraine must have its rights to drill for oil in the Black Sea restored. The oil is why Puting really wanted Crimea.
Mum on Ukraine’s Security Wish List, Putin Instead Sends a Warlord to Mariupol
3/30/2022, 8:57:26 AM · 34 of 44
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050884/posts?page=34#34 gleeaikin to NorseViking; Kevmo; SoCal Pubbie; Williams; BiglyCommentary; rrrod; Meet the New Boss; All
This Feb. 2019 Forbes article clearly defines the great loss to Ukraine caused by Putin’s 2014 seizure of Crimea. Even if a plebecite should prove the people of Crimea prefer a totalitarian corruption ridden Russia to a corruption ridden Ukraine, at the very least the large “exclusion zone” shown in this article’s map should be reopened to Ukriane’s use and control regarding resources. An excellent sanction against Putin’s greed and cruelty.
At the very least, Putin has caused enough destruction in Ukraine, that any oil profits would have to go into rebuilding cities, rather than doing the kind of development that could make Ukraine an important modern European country. What a damn shame!!
What is most astonishing is the fact that so little has been mentioned about the whole Ukraine has petroleum reserves issue, and the places where they are constitute the precise main target of Putin’s massive attacks.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050773/posts?page=14#14
I don’t think Putin is after a “formidable barrier” against NATO. He’s after the oil & gas.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050271/posts?page=123#123
Look at the Azov Natural Gas Preserves region, and then look at Russia’s Occupation Map. He has captured all the land mass of the preserve and all the access land to the underwater portion of that preserve.
Now we see another part of the resource wars. Until recently the aluminum ore, bauxite, was being imported to Ukraine from Guinea, and then processed into Aluminia. This was then shipped to Russia for manufacture of aluminum objects of general commerce. The link below explains a lot about this business, and also mentions Hunter Biden.
This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc
The map on the right side, tells you all Russia wanted... Note the Southern Ukraine land grab.
LINK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Note the overlay from the land grab below. All land above this preserve, all land adjacent to the under sea portion of the Azov Natural Gas preserve...
LINK https://64.media.tumblr.com/b0de897e064daa66864fb2d3f06eef80/tumblr_n5k0yfhJmy1rasnq9o1_1280.png
I’m inclined to think Putin is more interested in owning the material assets of Ukraine than he is worried about being attacked by NATO. In that regard, he’s no better than a common thief.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1
I absolutely HATE it when someone posts a YouTube video as an article.
Yet, here I am doing exactly that...
This video is 10 minutes and two seconds long, and is the best explanation I’ve seen so far as to why Putin and Russia 1) Invaded Crimea in 2014, 2) has been waging a proxy war in the “breakaway” regions of Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014, and 3) why Putin is invading the remainder of Ukraine in 2022.
For those of you unable or unwilling to watch the video (I do recommend spending the 10 minutes of your time,) here’s my very poor Cliff Notes version:
Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.
In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.
But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.
This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.
1 posted on 3/6/2022, 11:09:00 AM by Yo-Yo
Control over oil and natural gas reserves is real power.
Why do you think Hillary Clinton was so interested in Libya in 2011? Oil.
Interesting how both Egypt/Libya and Ukraine had astro-turfed revolutions previous to “western aligned” governments being installed.
So far, Egypt’s and Libya’s “western aligned” governments have failed.
Russia is working on bringing down Ukraine’s “western aligned” government now.
Pretty much traditional Russian culture upholding brigands.
Putin is more interested in material assets of Ukraine than he is worried about being attacked by NATO.
***I shortened it a bit so that your comment could fit on a tagline. I’ll update the tagline page
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3992415/posts?q=1&;page=394#394
Great research.
You are definitely on to something here.
I definitely agree. Oil and other resources.
Russia and Germany have a long history of going after another country’s minerals.
Let’s not forget yours and mine:
To: lapsus calami
How many Rukes could a suitcase nuke, if the juked Ukes could nuke Rukes?
By fluke a nootcase suitcase nuke would duke a huke of Rukes, if a juked Uke could nuke Rukes.
Would nuked Rukes duke a huke of Ukes if the kook Ukes nuked the Rukes?
A pootypoot puke, a mookie Ruke, would duke the fluky Ukes.
Gadzooks.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4050125/posts?page=43#43
Ukrainian forces recapture Trostyanets, Poltavka and Malynivka from Russian troopers
3/27/2022, 12:45:13 PM · 41 of 54
lapsus calami to Kevmo
How many Rukes could the Ukes nuke, if the Ukes could nuke Rukes
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