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Ultra-light liquid hydrogen tanks promise to make jet fuel obsolete
www.newatlas.com ^ | April 21, 2022 | Loz Blain

Posted on 04/21/2022 2:39:28 PM PDT by Jonty30

A revolutionary cryogenic tank design promises to radically boost the range of hydrogen-powered aircraft – to the point where clean, fuel-cell airliners could fly up to four times farther than comparable planes running on today's dirty jet fuel.

Weight is the enemy of all things aerospace – indeed, hydrogen's superior energy storage per weight is what makes it such an attractive alternative to lithium batteries in the aviation world. We've written before about HyPoint's turbo air-cooled fuel cell technology, but its key differentiator in the aviation market is its enormous power density compared with traditional fuel cells. For its high power output, it's extremely lightweight.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Science; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: airlines; fakenews; hydrogen; jetfuel; liquid
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If this holds up, I think it is adaptable to cars. If they can just match the energy performance of gasoline, hydrogen is a much better option than any battery.
1 posted on 04/21/2022 2:39:28 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
This is an excellent idea.

How many new nuclear reactors should we build to create this super clean fuel?

2 posted on 04/21/2022 2:41:40 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Jonty30

Finally - a future technology worth investing in 🤪


3 posted on 04/21/2022 2:43:31 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: Jonty30

Hydrogen is not well suited to being in a tank. Petroleum engineers deal with this in their distillation plant designs.


4 posted on 04/21/2022 2:44:53 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Jonty30

They should use helium instead of hydrogen to reduce the risk of fire.


5 posted on 04/21/2022 2:45:32 PM PDT by Ken H (Trump won.)
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To: Jonty30

Nope. This new energy kills off the three-toed endangered cardinal. That’ll be the pretext of why it can’t be used. Technology that helps all of mankind will never be developed, because the elites want us begging them for scraps of food and permission to travel.


6 posted on 04/21/2022 2:45:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Very light hydrogen worked so well in the Hindenburg.
7 posted on 04/21/2022 2:46:12 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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If this holds up, I think it is adaptable to cars. If they can just match the energy performance of gasoline, hydrogen is a much better option than any battery.

Before we all get too worked up, let's pause a moment in remembrance of the Hindenburg. Remember, a tank of hydrogen can also be described as a potential bomb.

8 posted on 04/21/2022 2:46:24 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: Toddsterpatriot

If they a leak a bunch into the body and wings they could have a jet powered dirigible. :)


9 posted on 04/21/2022 2:47:11 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Jonty30

It will still be hard to keep the tiny molecule from leaking out at the fitting in the fuel system. And you’ve still got to make the stuff, there aren’t any hydrogen wells. I haven’t seen anyone ramping up nuclear plant construction.


10 posted on 04/21/2022 2:47:13 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Jonty30

Liquid hydrogen has a higher energy density than jet fuel by weight, but lower by volume.


11 posted on 04/21/2022 2:47:13 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Jonty30

Last I checked, hydrogen has 3 times the energy content of gasoline.


12 posted on 04/21/2022 2:47:48 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

As I recall it tends to migrate right through the tank
material. Maybe they have something new to build them
out of.


13 posted on 04/21/2022 2:48:31 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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hydrogen is a much better option than any battery.

My understanding is that hydrogen does not just come out of a well like natural gas. Its must be converted from hydro carbons. So depending on the conversion costs and pollution out put it may not make much difference.

However my understanding of such things is limited.

14 posted on 04/21/2022 2:49:57 PM PDT by usurper
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and where will all of that hydrogen come from? and what are the net energy losses from producing it, compressing it to liquefy it, and then transporting liquid hydrogen?


15 posted on 04/21/2022 2:50:02 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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Hydrogen is not a fuel. Hydrogen is an energy storage medium.

Hydrogen is a good way to store energy from intermittent electric sources like windmills and solar panels.


16 posted on 04/21/2022 2:50:31 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Ken H

Helium is inert and wouldn’t work.


17 posted on 04/21/2022 2:50:52 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Jonty30

Hydrogen is dangerously flammable and helium replaced it for lighter-than-air aircraft for that reason.


18 posted on 04/21/2022 2:51:20 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: catnipman
and where will all of that hydrogen come from? and what are the net energy losses from producing it, compressing it to liquefy it, and then transporting liquid hydrogen?

Right now the vast majority of liquid hydrogen comes from Natural Gas.

19 posted on 04/21/2022 2:52:27 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Hydrogen has a lot of potential as fuel (pun intended). The problem is transporting hydrogen to where it’s needed. Because the molecule is so much smaller leakage is a problem and there’s also hydrogen embrittlement to contend with.

Storage in metal hydrides is one soluton, but for aircraft that always return to specific locations, on-site hydrogen plants could generate the fuel on-site, as needed. That would eliminate transport concerns and once production was scaled to match consumption, minimal storage would be needed which minimizes boomablility.

The issue for passenger cars is more complex but truck fleets such as FedEx or WalMart trucks that operate out of a specific hub location would be feasible for on-site hydrogen production. All it takes is natural gas and we have lots of that and it can safely be transported.


20 posted on 04/21/2022 2:53:24 PM PDT by bigbob
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