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Are we losing our discernment

Posted on 03/21/2022 12:02:44 PM PDT by standing man

VANITY I am a long time lurker and occasional poster. I consider Free Republic to be one of the most informative sites available, but I find myself confused with the direction of commentary regarding Russia and the Ukriane. The media, the democrats, George Soros,the UN, the World economic forum. ALL either have LIED to us continually for the last four years or are actively involved in planning the destruction of our nation. At the Risk of being called a putinista or putard I have to ask the question. Why do we accept as fact the narrative that we are being fed by the msm? This link is not the hill I am willing to die on but it does present an alternative point of view worth considering https://burningbright.substack.com Stand Tall Brad


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To: CodeJockey

Yeah, what doesn’t add up is the shallow justification for the invasions and the weak-kneed appeasement of Putin.

The Russians weren’t even interested in western Ukraine until oil was found there. Their interest is simply in raping that country. Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.

In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.

But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.

This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc

If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.


181 posted on 03/21/2022 7:58:34 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: tsomer

Yeah.

Putin always spoke or participated at Schwab events.

They’re involving us with their infighting it seems to me.


182 posted on 03/21/2022 8:03:16 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: arthurus

designed to be a dstraction
***Designed by whom? The Illuminati? You are pushing the edges of discernment by suggesting conspiracy theories.


183 posted on 03/21/2022 8:05:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: imabadboy99

How about we just IGNORE the deep state narrative and see if it ever had credibility when it all plays out? Kind of like all that Qtard stuff. Like the title of the article, hint, this calls for discernment...


184 posted on 03/21/2022 8:07:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

We promised not to interfere in 1994
***I see very little evidence of our interference. But it is plain as day that Russia “interfered” by INVADING. Like the title says, use your discernment.


185 posted on 03/21/2022 8:12:05 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: miserare

Y u tink dat, misser?


186 posted on 03/21/2022 8:22:46 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable STILL)
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To: Kevmo

You need to go read the article up today on Revolver News by Darren Beaty!!


187 posted on 03/21/2022 8:25:33 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: imabadboy99

Putin who is spreading Christianity in Russia and fighting the globohomo agenda
***at the point of a sword... that’s basically a pile of bullsnot. He can spread christianity & fight globohomo agenda all he wants, but as soon as he invades his neighbor it’s obvious that this war aint about ideology. It’s about OIL and LAND and bein’ a regional bully, very similar to Sudetenland 1938.


188 posted on 03/21/2022 8:30:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Night Hides Not

Apologies for this screed and its length.

None needed. It’s refreshing to hear someone quietly reflective.


189 posted on 03/21/2022 8:36:44 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable STILL)
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To: usconservative

+1


190 posted on 03/21/2022 8:38:59 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable STILL)
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To: Kevmo

100%


191 posted on 03/21/2022 8:45:38 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Kevmo

As a conservative site, Free Republic is …

All of the reasons i’m here.


192 posted on 03/21/2022 8:47:28 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable STILL)
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To: Kevmo

I was trying to foster discussion not start a bar fight, enjoy your perfect understanding of the situation.


193 posted on 03/21/2022 8:50:20 PM PDT by standing man (stand tall)
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To: Kevmo

The side you think threw the first punch say the other side attacked them first over the last several years. At least thats what has been said.

So it could be a crybully playing victim situation to a cerrain extent here.

Dunno. But I doubt both sides are 100% telling the truth.

Don’t want to be anywhere near this kind ofnsituation.


194 posted on 03/21/2022 8:52:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I believe he will annex Eastern and Southern Ukraine (Russian Speaking), in addition to Crimea.
***I see that as kind of the Stoic and apathetic approach to the issues. The real question is whether he SHOULD be doing that. If your answer is yes, then you’re buying into the putinist line of propaganda, and if your answer is no then you’re buying into the NWO/globalist/Soros line of propaganda. I think there’s plenty of room to believe in yes-he-should but not be a Putinist, but plenty more room to belive in no-he-shouldn’t but not be a SorosGlobalist.


195 posted on 03/21/2022 8:53:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: ifinnegan

Yeah Putin is a soviet. hes hardcore kgb. despite whatever one thinks. Gorbachev is still a commie as well, pushing socialism through the green cross.

The big lie is they duped so many people it was gone when the ussr technically turned into the Russian Federation. They don’t just magically change or disappear.


196 posted on 03/21/2022 8:55:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I think everyone knows where everybody stands.

Biden is in up to his neck.


197 posted on 03/21/2022 8:57:49 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: sumuam

The state of our country today, and people are worried about taking sides in a war that has nothing to do with us,
***Your post is a solid example of inserting gigANTic Red Herrings. It’s a classic fallacy. We decided Ukraine was worth our protection when we signed the Budapest Agreement. The Ukes HONORed it, gave up their nukes; the Rukes VIOLATED it, invading twice; and we are busy ABROGATing it, with isolationist appeaser pantywaists like you pretending that betrayal is a virtue.

but the for the crooked swamp rats who have put Ukraine in the middle.
***If Ukraine is in the middle then we should be on Ukraine’s side.

CRT, anti-whiteness globohomo, stolen election, commies and foreigners in government, and ghetto culture constantly on the MSM.
***Classic examples of Red Herrings. Look! Squirrels!

Invasion on the southern border, and yes it is an invasion.
***More red herrings. Look, another squirrel!

You don’t needs bombs and missiles when you have parasitic
populations pouring by the the thousands to absorb natural resources,
***Squirrel resources!

land,
***Squirrel land!

taking a toll on the infrastructure
***Squirrel infrastructure!

and large amounts of third worlders being flown in on H-!B visas to do jobs that Americans used to do
***H1B squirrels!

and they did it better.
***Look here, squirrel pointer. Many many of us agree with you about all these squirrel items. But that doesn’t stop them from being classic red herrings.

Anyone who even thinks this is the country is what it was even 20 years ago, are fooling themselves, and it’s never going to recover.
***Some more squirrel mumbo jumbo pablum dessert.


198 posted on 03/21/2022 9:02:31 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: freeandfreezing

Well done, accuratizing the analogy.


199 posted on 03/21/2022 9:04:30 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: freeandfreezing

Occham’s Razor would suggest your approach is superior.


200 posted on 03/21/2022 9:05:28 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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