Posted on 03/13/2022 8:24:08 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
Ukrainian police said Sunday that a U.S. video journalist was killed in the Kyiv suburb of Irpin, which has been devastated by Russian attacks as Moscow’s invasion enters its third week.
Although the police statement described the filmmaker, Brent Renaud, as a New York Times staffer, he is a former contributor who was not on assignment in Ukraine at the time, according to the Times.
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My opinion on this is that there could be more than a few people from other countries invited there to fight that will end up dead.
They should know the risk they are taking. That said, propaganda romanticizes the idea of fighting for the popular cause, so maybe the risk wasn’t on the top of the mind of some people.
In this case the consequences of being there is death.
Feel free to keep my post and use it against me. I admit, not quite debunked yet (but it will be), just doesn’t add up to what being implied in the Western media (that he was targeted by Russia for assassination).
Here is a link to a video taken at the hospital of one of the others who was with him.
Not sure who the original source was and I can’t make out all of what is said, only hat the guy killed was shot in the neck.
https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/2596?single
Concurring bump...I'm hearing he was shot at a checkpoint by local volkssturm as a foreign spy after failing to answer their questions correctly.
“Because the Russians are at one place and the police another. They are not at the same place. The russians are in Russian controlled area and the police are in Ukrainian controlled area. This isn’t hard Bob.”
I have NO CLUE as to what that means. I guess you’re saying that the Russians shot through Ukrainian lines and hit the ‘journalist’? I guess that’s possible, but should Russia be blamed for it, if it happened that way?
Looks like I got my answer in Post #44. More media lies, nothing new.
Scratch it off you (very thin) list of lies by me.
Your unreadiness to believe the first narrative you’re given does you credit.
Remember: ‘Russian tanks were shoooting right at the reactors!’ or ‘the Russians have mobile crematoriums!’.
Guys, let’s just take a breath. More facts will come out.
I saw that hysterical “peacekeeper” badge, too.
A whole new understanding (for me) is emerging from this (so far potential) disaster. The Men of the West (lots of whom are now women) have come under the spell of a delusion about how far the words they use can construct a reality, in this case, the reality of war.
This is a very complex topic, but just as one example - they believe that “journalist” is some kind of magic role which confers immunity from the tides of battle in a war zone, and if a journalist is shot dead by a soldier that it’s the SOLDIER and not the “journalist” who has done something wrong.
Never mind that an NYT staffer in Kiev is in fact an enemy combatant from the Russian POV.
“Your unreadiness to believe the first narrative you’re given does you credit.”
LOL, thanks. I’ve followed enough stuff with Israel to see how the media operates when they have an agenda, and also how people (like the Palestinians) operate when they have an agenda. I remember one report from 1982 where the Palestinian guy was INSISTING that they don’t use civilian building as firing positions and that Israel was committing genocide for sport against them.
As the report ended they turned the camera to the top of a large hospital, said something like ‘but we’re no so sure’ as they showed an anti-aircraft gun emplacement on its roof. Obviously that was a different generation of ‘journalists’.
But when an IT-Scumbag-Contractor gets killed in a warzone it’s not even reported -by the journalists.
Don’t care about scumjournos. Buy the shooter a HappyMeal.
Don’t know how much they get paid but not enough..
“I have NO CLUE as to what that means.”
You don’t know what plain English means?
“I guess you’re saying...”
Don’t guess.
“that the Russians shot through Ukrainian lines and hit the ‘journalist’?”
Possibly, but it might also mean that the reporter had passed through a Ukrainian checkpoint and was in a territory between Russian and Ukrainian controlled areas, or he might have been in a Russian controlled area. The point is that he was not AT a Ukrainian checkpoint. He had passed through one.
“I guess that’s possible, but should Russia be blamed for it, if it happened that way?”
I cannot guarantee that he was shot by the Russians, but you seemed pretty sure the Ukrainians shot him because he was - according to you - AT their checkpoint (when he had already passed through their checkpoint).
Also, the Western world’s mass media outlets have pretty obviously sided with Ukraine. Would Ukraine really have to kill up a little known reporter to gin up more support among Western reporters? Or is it more likely that Russian troops - who have been forever infamous for reckless targeting of anything that moves - simply shot at a car moving toward their lines that they couldn’t identify as carrying reporters?
If you like Russian media so much and hate America so much, go to Russia. I will buy your ticket.
“If you like Russian media so much and hate America so much, go to Russia. I will buy your ticket.”
Thanks, but what does Russian media have to do with it?
That was a stupid comment. The American media has been lying to us about Russia collusion, covid, hunter biden in Ukraine, etc etc. And that’s just the last four years.
Do you love them? Do you believe everything they’re saying now?
You seem so eager to embrace Russia in this. Why don’t you just do us all a favor and go to Russia to serve under your good comrade Putin?
“Would Ukraine really have to kill up a little known reporter to gin up more support among Western reporters?”
They’re trying get the Western public to demand their leaders engage Russia there...this plays PERFECTLY in that effort.
And, on the contrary, what benefit is it to Russia to kill him, knowing the blowback that would occur? Can you think of anything gained for them?
At worst, it was an accident, as far as I can tell, and certainly not something to start WW3 over.
“You seem so eager to embrace Russia in this. Why don’t you just do us all a favor and go to Russia to serve under your good comrade Putin?”
He pays like crap, if you want to know, and it’s in Rubles.
Hey BobL, why do you hate ‘Merica?
Good lord, this site.
In all seriousness, it highlights the importance of an employer obtaining an employees' ID Badge upon termination. This is a requirement at my company.
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