Posted on 02/17/2022 7:13:51 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
The GED Testing Service requires test-takers be 16 years of age or older. However, most states require that a person be 18 years or older. This needs to change: Anyone age 16 or older should be permitted to take the GED. High achieving students deserve the ability to verify their proficiency in key subjects so they can get on with college.
Going even further, states should deem that anyone who scores high enough shall have satisfied the state’s graduation requirements and can leave school.
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*This is an ideal nonpartisan solution for our times. It will cost virtually nothing to enact the legislation and have little or no net effect on district finances. The bill itself likely would be a page or less and could pass with bipartisan support.*
A page or less would keep it simple. District finances-cut them when the students disappear.
Schools are trying to optimize the number of students in class because they get paid based on in-class participation.
Three of my five children decided to do GED. They then went into college classes they wanted for the careers they were aiming at. Two wanted the whole cap and gown thing so we all obliged.
Freedom really is the best way to decide these issues, not a government cookie cutter plan.
I agree with this and did exactly as proposed as soon as I heard about the proficiency exam.
I favor vouchers, let the vouchers cover whatever educational status the student gains until they are 18 years old. If that’s 4 or 5 years of college then so be it. If it’s barely enough to get a football player across the line reading at 3rd grade level then so be it. I see no reason to hold back smart kids just so the dumb kids can feel better about themselves.
from my home page
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Here’s my modest proposal for education reform.
We have been discussing ways to fast track kids through high school to avoid the liberal agenda and other idiocies:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts?page=84#84
Proposal for the Free Republic High School Diploma.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316882/posts
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Our son was home schooled.
Passed the GED after the 8th grade.
Took it as an entrance exam for a college prep school.
Way back when a 13 y.o. couldn’t easily get into any college except community colleges.
Instead, he got his Eagle Scout and competed in church bible competition called Teen Bible Quiz.
He’s done quite well and is still self motivated to be the best.
One nephew started college at 14, had his two year classes done by 16, then he could take the GED at 16, turn it in to the college to “validate” his two years.
The pushback will be TEACHERS UNIONS. Keep them in high school longer means more teachers/more dues/more power. I know one girl who dropped out of high school because she had one English credit left and her school demanded she fill up the rest of the day with electives. Why? She dropped out and took the GED. The problem is the “stigma” of the GED... there is one. That will have to change and be looked upon as an “educational choice”. IMHO
turn it in to the college to “validate” his two years.
***You lost me here. Can you please elaborate and clarify?
We need to have stigmas attached to students loans... and I can imagine ‘I got my GED at 16 so I could ______ instead waste time in school.’ is a statement that would be respected by the vast majority of people not heavily invested in academia.
Why college? The military takes in 17 year-olds. 16 may be a bit young. An honorable discharge can be rewarded with a $5k Roth reward and 40+ years of compound interest to look forward to. Perhaps 14 years of vouchers that would encourage one to learn faster than the standard 16(K-12 + University).
*The problem is the “stigma” of the GED... there is one.*
This short article suggests the stigma will be removed. Watch the union drama queens act out the same way they call everyone racists only this time they’ll call them stupid.
*The problem is the “stigma” of the GED... there is one.*
***Yup, there is one. And even though I had a year & half of college, the military still would not honor the GED when I was looking into the Reserves. Complete bullshiite all around.
He was killed at 18 in a head on collision by a drunk and high illegal alien going 100 mph in a stolen car.
***Again, referring to my home page...
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Whenever an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or something similar, here’s what I recommend:
What can we do about it? Here’s my standard post.
RICO —Citizen Recourse
Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.
Here’s what I’ve been pushing: it’s time to file Racketeering, Influencing, and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) lawsuits.
RICO lawyers could turn it around in a few years and MAKE MONEY at the same time. I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.
In the absence of enforcement, we can get the word out in the meantime that there is money to be made in filing RICO lawsuits against employers who hire illegal aliens like this jerk.
Employers would have no trouble shutting down the border if they could get sued by someone under the RICO statutes for hiring these people in the first place. The next time an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or somesuch thing, I’m going to point out that the victim’s family might be able to seek compensation from the employer under these statutes in the hopes that it would catch on. If this did catch on, would see such a swift backlash against illegal immigration that no employer would go near these people and they’ll all simply want to go back home.
If testing can be made cheat proof, then anyone passing the GED should get their diploma no matter what their educational background. This works for ANY level of education even for Masters and PhD degrees. There needs to be some objectivity in the higher degrees. As it is now, a Masters or PhD candidate jumps to the tune of their faculty advisor and the degree system becomes just another ideological filtering apparatus.
High School Equivalency Exam
World Wide Web Links | 1/6/05 | Kevin O’Malley
Posted on 1/6/2005, 7:58:45 PM by Kevin OMalley
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts
I am for the complete removal of government from education. Why are there hideous rules based on chronology to take an exam? When I homeschooled my children advanced lesson by lesson based on mastery, not based on age. It was easy, because what they were learning wasn't rocket science, but it prepared them to learn anything when they were young adults and for the rest of their lives - including rocket science (engineering). Both of my daughters had to take the GED. It was a joke; talk about setting standards low.
Why does anyone put any credence in the GED or state graduation exams? Look at the source. They are all part of the failed government education establishment. They are a check box that has no meaning other than to arbitrarily advance in their failed education system. Government makes kids and their parents jump through hoops only to be indoctrinated and poorly educated. People independent of that system (homeschoolers) don't want to play by their failed rules. That is why they homeschool. They do a hell of a lot better than any low-IQ government teacher and they know better than EVERY school administrator. Everyone employed in state and federal government department of educations are useless wastes of tax dollars and are part of the failed education establishment. Their driving motivators are to retire and collect their pensions while maintaining the status quo so they retain their employment. Their greatest fear is independent thinkers that actually have meaningful standards. That's the truth about these tax dollar sucking scum that want to keep your kids and America in a quagmire of mediocrity.
An average American can do all their jobs ten times better at fraction of the cost, all without their bogus Ed degrees and leftist indoctrination.
Burn it all down. Let people keep their tax dollars and drive these leftists to the unemployment line. Put education solely in the private sector and in the hands of parents.
I started college at 14. I was more than ready and have had nothing but solid 4.0 grades through all the colleges I have attended.
High school was a joke and nearly a complete waste of time, and I went to one of the worst black high schools in the country and two of the best and affluent high schools. There were major differences between the schools but college is what provided my education, not the high schools.
I am also all for the Early College programs, like the Colorado Early Colleges, that send kids to college instead of High School. They earn a 4 year degree and their high school diploma together. They are part of the public school charter programs and are free to the students.
Why stop at 16. Make it 12 years old.
My 16yo son will be taking the last section of the GED next week (Idaho). He could easily have passed straight out of 8th grade. Language Arts section scored him as “college ready” and he hasn’t had to re-take any of it. Students and parents need the freedom to make the right choice for them.
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