Posted on 02/16/2022 11:27:46 AM PST by animal172
Can someone please explain the price for Diesel? About a week ago I filled up at a local station in Louisville, KY. The listed price on the outside board said $3.49 a gallon. While filling up I looked at the price on the pump. Shock. It was $3.79. I complained and they did give me the difference, but that time the price on the outside sign was bumped up to $3.79. Last Friday I was at my local station in Greeneville, TN. The price for regular gas was $3.09. The Diesel? $3.79. Seventy cents more for Diesel. I can only thank SloMo Joe.
Gasoline goes up, diesel goes up as well.........................
Diesel prices raced ahead on unleaded prices several years back when the government mandated low-sulfur formulations. That, and the requirement for diesel exhaust fluid and the poor performance of government-mandated pollution controls has made what was an affordable, reliable system too expensive and too maintenance-intensive to be of any real value.
I got rid of my last diesel in 2017 and haven’t been happier.
And heating fuel.
It makes no sense. Diesel takes less refining than gasoline? You would think that gasoline would cost more? Maybe demand for gasoline is higher?
Its Pig Face and his merry band of scum eco fruiti.
The have to refine this crap down now.
Used to be they refined it down, sent it to market and the prices reflected that.
Now, diesel has no ash at all and you have to use deff fluid besides. So figuring the prices of deff fluid, and the price of diesel, your not better off with a diesel pickup anymore.
The word is that the major companies have taken interest in the opposed piston engine. A tech’ that is over a 100 years old. But someone has engineered it to be a lot more efficient. A three cylinder in a F 150 will get about 36 miles to the gallon. Actually, its a 6 cylinder since there are two pistons per cylinder. About 100 less moving parts to the thing also.
It is a two cycle engine. The bottom ports are the intake and the top are the exhaust. There is no head. No valving like the conventional 4 cycle engine. But, those pistons have to meet EXACTLY on time for the power stroke or it will run bad.
Mr. GG2 just paid $3.75. $100 to fill his behemoth Ram 2500. He’s still grousing about it.
The price of diesel fluctuates a lot.
I’ve seen it double the cost of gas in the past, and then it corrects and sometimes it’s just as cheap.
There seems to be no rhyme or reason for it.
I believe the gov simply taxes the hell out of diesel.
Diesel is also a traded commodity on world markets. Add in your state’s taxes.
In Washington it’s $4.09 for diesel, and we have 4 refineries in a 30 mile radius.
TXEagle has the answer. There is a lot more refining required to reduce the sulfur levels to those required by the EPA.
A lot of diesel fuel is purchased through long-term contracts between major trucking companies and the large retail chains for huge volumes of fuel. So at a location near a major highway it may be that most of the fuel is being sold for far less than the posted price. When fuel prices increase dramatically in a short period of time, the retailer has to sell the diesel fuel to small-volume customers (with no fuel contracts) at a higher markup to make up for the very small profit they make on the high-volume sales to the big customers.
Another fun fact about the price of diesel: its percentage rise will clue you in to the percentage rise in the price of everything you’ll be buying in the near future. It all comes on trucks. When diesel rises, the extra cost goes on the cost of the goods transported. It’s like an extra layer of taxation.
It’s cheaper if you have a commercial license. There are extra taxes for people who just drive personal diesel vehicles.
I went by Kroger to pick up a few items this morning. The sign at a side entrance to the parking lot said $3.25/gal for regular 87 octane. The sign on the roof over the pumps displayed $3.39/gal, which was the price at the pump.
The Biden war on American energy continues.
We need to let the chemical engineers get involved in the discussion.
I read somewhere that diesel and jet fuel are by products in the refining process. Since jet fuel has seen squeezed demand and lower production, then less ‘waste’ in the form of diesel is being generated.
Not sure if this makes sense….
“””Diesel prices raced ahead on unleaded prices several years back when the government mandated low-sulfur formulations. That, and the requirement for diesel exhaust fluid and the poor performance of government-mandated pollution controls has made what was an affordable, reliable system too expensive and too maintenance-intensive to be of any real value.”””
You are correct. I will also add that gasoline and diesel prices are a supply and demand issue.
For gasoline—— electric vehicles and converting corn to ethanol have created an over supply of gasoline.
For diesel—— the banning of heavy fuels on ocean going vessels has increased the demand for diesel.
I still have my Mercedes diesel car and I remember the days before the above events and diesel was lower priced than gasoline.
Generally, diesel fuel costs more than gasoline because there are more BTU’s in a gallon of diesel than a gallon of gasoline. The price premium has not always been on diesel, but it has been that way for the last 20+ years. It was typically a few cents over premium gasoline, but pretty close.
How much was the station charging for 93 premium gasoline? Your comparison should be there, not with 87 regular.
Thank you DemonicRATS.
There is a reason why diesel is more expensive than gasoline. Taxes. Several years ago, most legislatures discovered that most consumers of diesel were out of state truckers just passing through. These truckers could be taxed without worrying about taxpayer retribution at the polls. Consequently, diesel is taxed at a much higher rate than gasoline.
You might have noticed that there usually two different prices for diesel. The regular price and the ‘off road’ tax. The taxes on ‘off-road’ diesel is much less to placate the farmers. Off-road diesel has a different color. Don’t get caught with off-road diesel in your diesel powered vehicle unless it is a tractor and you’re hauling hay. The penalties are huge.
BTW, I bought lots of ‘off-road’ diesel to use in my four wheelers. IIRC, it was a distinctive red color. You can drive a farm tractor on the highway when moving from one field to another but the principal use must be off-road.
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