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Carhartt blowback shows the tightrope companies face over vaccine mandate decisions
npr ^ | January 19, 20223:12 PM ET | BECKY SULLIVAN Twitter Instagram

Posted on 01/19/2022 2:52:36 PM PST by BenLurkin

Now that the U.S. Supreme Court has blocked the Biden administration's vaccine-or-test rule for private employers, companies nationwide are faced with a decision: Go ahead with a vaccine mandate anyway, or abandon it.

No matter which path companies choose, backlash appears near certain.

This week, workwear company Carhartt became the latest example of the public tightrope employers must walk to balance the health and safety concerns of employees against staffing challenges, potential legal liability and customer blowback.

"Employers are between a rock and a hard place. You have a responsibility as an employer to provide a safe working environment for your employees. That's an incredibly subjective standard. It just got more subjective when you don't have the benefit of having a law to be able to point at," said David Lewis, the CEO of the human resources consulting firm OperationsInc.

On Friday, Carhartt CEO Mark Valade announced in an internal all-staff email that the company's vaccine mandate — which went into effect for most of Carhartt's 3,000 U.S.-based employees earlier this month — would stay in place despite the Supreme Court's decision. The mandate includes exceptions for religious and medical reasons.

"We put workplace safety at the very top of our priority list, and the Supreme Court's recent ruling doesn't impact that core value," Valade wrote. "An unvaccinated workforce is both a people and business risk that our company is unwilling to take."

Then, a photo of the email circulated on social media.

While vaccine supporters applauded the move, some conservatives called for a boycott of Carhartt products and questioned the wisdom of the company's decision given its traditional blue-collar customer base.

"Pretty rich from a company sustained by the ranchers, farmers, laborers, etc. who make this country great and celebrate her values of freedom and liberty. Boycott Carhartt until they break," wrote Molly McCann, a conservative lawyer who once represented former Trump administration national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Although the company has dramatically expanded its reach in recent years, its best-known products are the rugged jackets and overalls worn by construction workers, contractors and utility workers — and sometimes by politicians on the campaign trail looking to bolster their blue-collar credibility.

"Carhartt fully understands and respects the varying opinions on this topic, and we are aware some of our associates do not support this policy. However, we stand behind our decision because we believe vaccines are necessary to protect our workforce," said company spokesperson Amy Hellebuyck in a statement, She added that a "vast majority" of Carhartt's employees are vaccinated or in the process of becoming so.

The polarized landscape facing companies While vaccines do not completely eliminate transmission of COVID-19, they reduce the likelihood of catching the disease and dramatically improve the odds of avoiding hospitalization or death. Those who have received booster shots are even more protected. Vaccine mandates have been successful at driving up vaccination rates.

The Biden administration rule would have required private employers with 100 or more employees to implement a vaccine mandate or test negative for COVID-19 at least once a week. The rule would have covered roughly 84 million workers.

A December poll by CNN and SSRS reported that 6 in 10 people approved of a rule like the Biden administration's. In another, Axios and Ipsos found that 54% of respondents said they supported employer mandates.

But support for mandates differs sharply among Republicans and Democrats. In the Axios poll, nearly 80% of Democrats supported employer mandates, compared with just 30% of Republicans.

The Biden administration announced the rule in September with the hope that it could drive up vaccination rates nationwide. Originally, it was set to go into effect this month as a regulation of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

But the rule was dogged by legal challenges and ultimately blocked by the Supreme Court last week in a 6-3 vote.

Adding to the confusion for companies are states where lawmakers have effectively blocked private vaccine mandates — like in Montana and Tennessee — or undercut them by requiring expansive exemption policies, as in a handful of other conservative states.

The decision isn't always strictly about safety Ultimately, Lewis said, employers will make business decisions about whether to keep vaccine mandates in place. For public-facing companies, consumer sentiment is one factor. But the opinion of current employees also matters, he says.

The tight labor market could be the biggest concern for companies with lower vaccination rates, which may hesitate to lay off employees who refuse vaccines at a time when finding replacements could be difficult.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 73% of Americans over the age of 18 are fully vaccinated. Those who are unvaccinated tend to be younger than 50 and less educated.

That means companies with largely white-collar and coastal workforces may have an easier time implementing and enforcing a vaccine mandate, Lewis said.

"It's not just about the white-collar versus blue-collar, but there's definitely a divide that starts there," said Lewis. "It's politics. It's regions within the country that have been more on board with vaccinations than those that have not."

Following last week's Supreme Court ruling, that divide is increasingly front and center for employers.

Financial goliath CitiGroup said Friday that it will go ahead with its mandate after 99% of the company's tens of thousands of U.S.-based employees complied with a mid-January vaccination deadline.

United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby has continued to defend his company's mandate. Last week, he said the policy "saves lives" and revealed that, on average, more than one United employee was dying of COVID-19 each week before the company's mandate took effect in September.

Among the companies that have taken the opportunity to drop vaccination rules is Starbucks, which had announced earlier this month that it would require employees at its thousands of locations across all 50 states to be fully vaccinated by Feb. 9 or else be tested weekly, as directed by the OSHA rule.

On Tuesday, the company reversed course, informing employees that it would not require any vaccine or testing regimen.

And two of the country's biggest manufacturing companies – GE and Boeing – both dropped their requirements in December after a federal judge stayed another Biden administration rule requiring federal contractors to implement vaccine mandates.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: beckysullivan; carhartt; letsgocarhartt; nationalpropaganda; npr; vaccines; wearyourcarfartts
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To: FreedomPoster

Their apparel has been appropriated by the koolaid-colored hair millennial hipsters as part of the urban farmer trend.

This crowd will move on to the next big thing that is both shiny and woke and Carhartt will find themselves deeply in the red as they have turned their backs on their long-term customer base whose loyalty is only exceeded by their patriotism.

Get woke, go broke, yadda yadda yadda...


61 posted on 01/19/2022 4:31:04 PM PST by diplomatic_immunity
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To: BenLurkin

There is no liability for the decision. For a company it is a no brainer. Put back liability to the company for adverse effects and lawsuits will stop it. Or a few CEO’s die from the adverse effects.


62 posted on 01/19/2022 4:35:23 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: usurper

Unlike the vax companies they have no gov exemption to block their liability. >>> I believe with the EUA they are not liable for adverse effects.


63 posted on 01/19/2022 4:41:03 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: setter

Their is a California court ruling, from way back, that connects employment and additionally, retirement accounts, to the employees ownership. That ruling is why public employees are so hard to terminate. The state ruled, workers were entitled to administrative justice process, before separation, and after separation an appeal process, because that impacts their retirement account.

It’s a complex argument, but watch someone make a similar argument here to beat the unilateral dismissal for not being vaccinated, because the vaccine may cause the death of the worker, and therefore the company was impacting the retirement account ownership of the worker by issuing the mandate.


64 posted on 01/19/2022 4:51:01 PM PST by pacificus
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To: JimSp

yeah. you can’t get more woke the starbucks. lol.

it’s too bad about carrhardt, as a workin’ man i liked some of their stuff.


65 posted on 01/19/2022 5:00:16 PM PST by dadfly
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To: BenLurkin

“Why even have require employees be “vaccinated” when the “vaccinations” do not prevent people from contracting and transmitting the China Virus?”

The Achilles heal of the vax police.

The vax does not work.


66 posted on 01/19/2022 5:05:25 PM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: BenLurkin
Employers are between a rock and a hard place. You have a responsibility as an employer to provide a safe working environment for your employees.

Which useless masks and ineffective “vaccines” are not going to accomplish.

67 posted on 01/19/2022 5:19:08 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: setter

WRONG. I don’t have the company health care and they don’t have my info. Also, they would have to fire me as I will not go voluntarily.

Communists like you have no business here on FR. I don’t support banning you but really, you are in the wrong place.


68 posted on 01/19/2022 5:23:03 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Thank you. We have all been healthy through this until she got hit. Told her to follow the Front Line group’s prevention protocol even though she got the shot. Rough day yesterday, but showing slight improvement today.


69 posted on 01/19/2022 5:23:52 PM PST by DallasGal (Le temps fuit sans retour )
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To: DallasGal

I am sorry that’s happened.

Do you know how they are treating her pneumonia? NAC with glycine helps restore glutathione, which is severely depleted in that condition.


70 posted on 01/19/2022 5:42:18 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Ezekiel
“core value”

It’s as if they just fill in a template.

Upper management have all sorts of fads they create or buy into to make themselves appear to be doing something. Remember "TEAMS" and "Paradyn Shift" sometimes these fads destroy the company like Montgomery Ward and K-Mart.

71 posted on 01/19/2022 5:45:20 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: DallasGal

Studies you can take to her doctors:

NAC to Combat COVID-19: an evidence review
https://www.dovepress.com/getfile.php?fileID=63267

Severe Glutathione Deficiency, Oxidative Stress and Oxidant Damage in Adults Hospitalized with COVID-19: Implications for GlyNAC (Glycine and N-Acetylcysteine) Supplementation
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3921/11/1/50/htm

I hope she gets well, soon!


72 posted on 01/19/2022 5:50:16 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: packrat35

“WRONG. I don’t have the company health care and they don’t have my info. Also, they would have to fire me as I will not go voluntarily. Communists like you have no business here on FR. I don’t support banning you but really, you are in the wrong place.”

YOU NEVER EVEN READ WHAT I POSTED. NOTICE I WROTE THIS:

“That changed with Hipaa when employers could no longer see your health info.”

______________________________________________________

1. I am 100% for hipaa. I never liked when employers saw the employees health information and I was a health insurance broker

2. As for companies requiring the vaccine. Their company their rules. Don’t like it ..leave. That is capitalism. If I was a communist I would force you to take the shot.

I do not give a hoot if you have the shot or not.


73 posted on 01/19/2022 5:51:09 PM PST by setter
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To: BenLurkin

I looked up the Carhartt CEO on Open Secrets and he donated to Biden in 2020.


74 posted on 01/19/2022 5:52:14 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

Imagine my surprise that a woke CEO donated to Jao Bai Den.


75 posted on 01/19/2022 6:23:08 PM PST by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: BenLurkin

Phone call yesterday with a polite gentleman. Email today. Guess what? My 90 year old relative got Moderna 2x and Moderna 1x and then later got covid. Benedryl helped. Her doctor said Claritin is better. Yup, vaccines are useless. Carhart is ancient history like the telegraph.


76 posted on 01/19/2022 6:51:21 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: BenLurkin

I hope Mike Lindell and “My Pillow” start up an outdoor wear line!


77 posted on 01/19/2022 7:03:33 PM PST by MountainDad (A strong man stands up for himself. A stronger man stands up for others. Support your local militia.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Thank you!! She knows of NAC, but I know she isn’t in a state of mind to be her normal in charge self. Things were not good yesterday, slightly improved today.

I’ve added Nigella Sativa to the prevention protocol of supplements I take. Can NAC be taken preventatively?


78 posted on 01/19/2022 7:05:37 PM PST by DallasGal (Le temps fuit sans retour )
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To: imabadboy99

Note sent.
Thank you.


79 posted on 01/19/2022 7:07:18 PM PST by gathersnomoss (LIVE FREE)
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To: BenLurkin

From news reports it appears that Carhartt is more WOKE than Starbuck’s.

Geesh!

Who knew?

I thought Carhartt was like alpha and it was Starbuck’s that was a snowflake.


80 posted on 01/19/2022 7:45:37 PM PST by Biblebelter
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