Posted on 10/03/2021 6:18:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said last week that Covid vaccines 'can't prevent transmission' anymore despite working "exceptionally well."
"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death - they prevent it, but what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission," she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "So if you’re going home to someone who is not vaccinated…I would suggest you wear a mask in public indoor settings," she continued.
CDC director Rochelle Walensky says that the vaccine *cannot* prevent transmission. So why are all these Pro-Vaxxers saying that it can? pic.twitter.com/8aaDTh8N3T — Anthony Brian Logan (ABL) 🇺🇸 (@ANTHONYBLOGAN) October 2, 2021
That said, Walensky may have actually undersold the vaccines. According to a preprint study by British scientists at the University of Oxford, people who have taken AstraAeneca's Covid-19 vaccine and contract the virus are just as likely to spread it as the unvaccinated after 90 days, while the Pfizer vaccine's ability to reduce transmission is "substantially" reduced over the same period, according to the records of nearly 150,000 contacts that were traced from approximately 100,000 initial cases.
As NBC News reports, "The samples included people who were fully or partially vaccinated with either the Pfizer-BioNTech (BNT162b2) or the AstraZeneca (ChAd0x1) vaccines, as well as people who were unvaccinated. The researchers then looked at how the vaccines affected the spread of the virus if a person had a breakthrough infection with either the alpha variant or the highly contagious delta variant." Of note, both vaccines were more effective against the Alpha variant.
Initially, both vaccines reduced transmission from a fully vaccinated person to a given contact. Specifically, if a vaccinated individual is infected with the Delta variant, a given contact was 65% less likely to test positive if the infected had two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, and 36% less likely with AstraZeneca.
Yet, buried in the 14th paragraph of the report, NBC News notes:
The new study showed that protection against transmission seemed to wane over time, however. After three months, people who had breakthrough infections after being vaccinated with AstraZeneca were just as likely to spread the delta variant as the unvaccinated. While protection against transmission decreased in people who had received the Pfizer vaccine, there was still a benefit when compared with people who were unvaccinated.
In the words of the researchers, the Pfizer vaccine's ability to reduce transmission was 'substantially' lower by week 12.
They also found that while the Pfizer vaccine was superior in reducing transmission to contacts, protection against Covid-19 in the first place waned faster vs. AstraZeneca.
As for where people are coming into contact with the infected - the study found that 70% occurred within households, 10% from household visitors, 10% at 'events and activities,' and 10% at work or school.
What does this mean for the holidays? According to Dr. Anthony Fauci, it's 'too soon to tell' whether people can safely gather together for Christmas this year.
HOLIDAY LOOKAHEAD: "It’s just too soon to tell," Dr. Anthony Fauci tells @margbrennan when pressed whether or not people can safely gather together for Christmas this year.
He says the country should instead concentrate on getting COVID cases down. pic.twitter.com/ey0ft9aCOh— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) October 3, 2021
But you can "safely gather" 1000s for the Met gala or 900 at Obama's birthday party? Fuck this guy. https://t.co/cRdLGaupap — Stalingrad & Poorski (@Stalingrad_Poor) October 3, 2021
And why aren't US officials acknowledging naturally acquired immunity?
The big issue with natural immunity is that nobody gets rich. — Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) October 2, 2021
With all the mixed messaging, is anyone really shocked at the widespread 'vaccine hesitancy' among healthcare professionals?
As the Babylon Bee jokes:
This pandemic has been a huge hoax perpetrated on the world to control them.
Insanity. SMH
One other factor — why ignore NATURAL IMMUNITY from the already infected and recovered?
Several studies have shown that those with naturally acquired immunity have more robust and longer-lasting antibodies compared to the vaccinated.
So, why force the vaccines on these people under the threat of losing their livelihood?
Yeah, because giving a shot to a 2, 4, and 6 month old infant is so worth it.
Giving that number of injections to babies that little is criminal and we wouldn’t “need” 5 for actual immunity if they just waited a few months.
RE: Mayor, we still have lots of crime in our city year after year despite paying 100 police officers year after year.
Mayor, shouldn’t we be looking into the many cases of police who actually HARM the citizens they are supposed to protect?
Should we be forcing citizens to fund these people in the force?
I never do this, but I would be most appreciative for links to the studies that show this. All I can find is scattered reports of destruction of natural immunity by the vaccine.
1) Covid never had that high a level of risk, ESPECIALLY if treated early on.
2) There is no precedent for locking down a nation over a cold virus that the medical community refused to treat until the person was in critical condition.
3) Context. Look at who’s in charge and what they atpre trying to control. Is it the virus? Or the people?
4) The vax is not the only option for treating COVID, nor is it the best one. The government CHOSE to prohibit any other option so as to get their EUA for their ineffective so-called vax.
That's the Cliff note version, and it cannot be argued with.
Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic. I hope all will faithfully read the manufacture’s complete statement:
https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
Here is where I found the immunity boost phenomenon given to one vaccinated through a breakthrough infection:
Nonsense. People are not "routinely getting boosters" for these illnesses.
Chickenpox - No CDC documents contain the word "booster." From WebMD:
Who Should Get Vaccinated With the Chickenpox Vaccine?The chickenpox vaccine is recommended for all children under age 13 who have not had chickenpox. It is also recommended for all adolescents and adults who have not been vaccinated and have not had chickenpox.
If you have had chickenpox, there is no need for you to get the vaccine.
Duration of immunityMeasles, Mumps, and Rubella - from Immunization Action Coalition Ask The Experts (www.immunize.org):The long-term duration of protection from varicella vaccine is unknown, but there are now persons vaccinated twenty years ago with no evidence of waning immunity, while others have become vulnerable in as few as six years...
according to the World Health Organization: "After observation of study populations for periods of up to 20 years in Japan and 10 years in the United States, more than 90% of immunocompetent persons who were vaccinated as children were still protected from varicella."
Do any adults need "booster" doses of MMR vaccine to prevent measles?Diphtheria, tetanus, and acellular pertussis - From the Mayo Clinic:No. Adults with evidence of immunity do not need any further vaccines. No "booster" doses of MMR vaccine are recommended for either adults or children. They are considered to have life-long immunity once they have received the recommended number of MMR vaccine doses or have other evidence of immunity.
Children 10 years of age and older, and adults, may need an additional immunization called a booster against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis. Adults and teenagers should receive Tdap instead of the tetanus-diphtheria (Td) injection if it has been 10 years or more since their last tetanus-diphtheria vaccine.-PJ
#FibberMcGee
#FollowTheScience
“That’s because is not a vaccine, it’s marketing!”
That’s because it’s not a vaccine. It’s Biden keeping up his end of the deal for Pharma to help him “win” the election.
We’d better get this goblin under control soon, or we’ll be shot down like dogs in the street. It’s what’s happening in Australia now, and were not far behind.
Trump’s biggest mistake: Fauci-Pence.
Given these comparative odds from a peer reviewed paper for the risk of dying from this pathogen, this fails one of the four criteria you listed.
If this had even a 10% mortality rate, there might be justification, never mind a 30% or 40% rate.
But it doesn't. It doesn't not even in the groups most at risk.
If this were something that warranted these unconstitutional measures, an exception could be devised. And mandates wouldn't be required. People would clamor for it, not be forced at the point of a government gun and the loss of their livelihood to submit to it.
People that would support these measures for a pathogen of this lethality, in order to obtain some semblance of perceived safety by forcing these measures on ostensibly free people are not only not conservative, they don't deserve liberty.
And if you believe big pharma, you are a fool.
Their history gives no one any basis for trust in them in the least.
What a load of crap.
Ivermectin turned the tide for me. Took five pills at 6 a.m. At 6 p.m. I realized I felt a slight bit better. By 8 p.m., I decided that I probably did not want to die any more.
Next morning it was much better, and I took the next five pills. Five pills at 6 a.m. for five days in a row. Miracle.
I still don’t know if I was so sick from Covid — which I had — or from the monoclonal shots I got. The day after the monoclonal, Hubby and I took a definite downturn. We still wonder what was REALLY in the vials.
Sure, Jan.
If you read some of the vaccine defenders in this thread, they seem to be saying that it STILL lessens your chances of being infected and thus transmitting the disease compared to your being unvaccinated.
In other words, the argument is — don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good ( or somewhat good ).
How? Why?
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