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Dying in the Name of Vaccine Freedom | NYT Opinion
youtube ^ | Aug 23, 2021

Posted on 08/25/2021 11:43:05 AM PDT by entropy12

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To: entropy12
Good talking points, EXCEPT OBESITY & HERAT DISEASE are not remotely contagious.

Ah, so now you want to place limits on what you consider to be an epidemic. Obesity is considered by most to be an epidemic, and it is considered by most to be a disease.

I don't think the term "epidemic" has ever been defined as "whatever frightens people the most".

Obesity is a much greater threat to health than Covid, but no politician could survive an election if he was a genuine risk of being able to get legislation passed which eliminated highly processed foods. The agriculture and processed food industries have as much political clout as Big Pharma does.

61 posted on 08/25/2021 1:42:32 PM PDT by Wissa (If you thought 2020 was bad...)
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To: gitmo

Thank you for that.

Says three months pass for natural immunity. Really!?!? Seems arbitrary and way too short. IMHO. Natural immunity has to be much better that some artificial liquid.


62 posted on 08/25/2021 1:49:47 PM PDT by Hound46804
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Says three months pass for natural immunity. Really!?!? Seems arbitrary and way too short. IMHO. Natural immunity has to be much better that some artificial liquid.

No, it says if you get tested within three months you will test positive when you are not infected.

63 posted on 08/25/2021 1:51:11 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: entropy12

Wrong - just wrong. Yahoo is a liberal outlet, and they and their left wing brethren wanted to destroy Sweden because it was making globalists look bad.

Western Europe is a perfect match, and Sweden beat many of them, as well as the US.

Lockdowns don’t work.

Masks don’t work.

And the vaccines eventually fail. Now it is boosters? They are not approved under the EUA.

Soon, people will be taking boosters hourly.


64 posted on 08/25/2021 1:55:25 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: entropy12

I survived the Fauci/China virus.

I do not need the shot.


65 posted on 08/25/2021 2:01:22 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Titus-Maximus
Western Europe is a perfect match, and Sweden beat many of them, as well as the US.

Not only that, his premise is dead wrong.

How Finland and Norway Proved Sweden’s Approach to COVID-19 Works
66 posted on 08/25/2021 2:13:18 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: entropy12

My county of 24,000 has had 43 deaths “attributed to COVID” since COVID got here 1 1/2 years ago. I-44 runs right through the county and St Louis, our State’s hot COVID spot is 70 miles up the Interstate. Thousand of people come here from St Louis every weekend for recreation. They shop here, eat at restaurants here, mask free.

Kids went back to school last fall, no masks, no distancing. Walmart gave up on masks and arrows on the floor because we wouldn’t have it. People talk to each other maskless and shake hands like we always have and we’ve been doing that since late last Spring.

2019/2020, 200000+ cases of the flu in the US.

2020/2021 2,038 cases of the flu in the US.

Most of the people dying from COVID would have had a pretty shot at dying from the flu. 80+ with 2-3 comorbidities. The jab and/or seems to have changed that demographic a little.

My wife knows of 1 or 2 at the nursing home she works at. She said they were expected to die soon, regardless. It was just close to their time.

It seems we have a pandemic of lying ass leftists in the cities, like St Louis, pumping up the numbers. We have a pandemic of communism.

I have a feeling it’s not just lying in the leftist cities. I can imagine this phrase being uttered. “No treatment, just put his white country ass on a ventilator”.


67 posted on 08/25/2021 2:14:37 PM PDT by Pollard (#*&% Communism)
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To: entropy12

Your employee ID is showing. New York Times, I see.


68 posted on 08/25/2021 2:41:17 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: entropy12

“You are a good example of people, who run with opinions which are contradictory to FACTS and actual data”

Here’s a fact for you then.

It is against my moral conscience to perform an action (take a vaccine in this case) under coercion by means of threats to livelihood or threats to my civil rights.

It is simply not on the table as long as they are threatening people. That is not a medical decision. That is a moral decision.

I will reevaluate the vaccine when the following conditions are met:

1. No threats have been made by any political leader, business leader, or any other influential person for at least 5 years or two different presidential administrations, whichever is longer.

2. An honest study (that means the CDC is not involved) of the 5+ year long term side effects of the mRNA vaccine is performed and published.

3. People (I was about to say liberals, then remembered how many vaccine fascists we have on the right) stop accusing me of murder for not bowing down to their commands and threats to get vaccinated for at least 4 years consistently.

After those conditions are met, I will evaluate whether or not to take the vaccine. Until then it’s off the table, and I will not comply with threat of any kind.


69 posted on 08/25/2021 2:42:11 PM PDT by JamesP81 (The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.)
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To: entropy12

“ But the people dying in the video are not actors, they are all real people who chose freedom over the jabs.”

And they are, thus, better than most of their countrymen.


70 posted on 08/25/2021 2:42:51 PM PDT by JamesP81 (The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.)
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To: entropy12

“...the worst pandemic in my lifetime.”

By what standard?

The PCR test that was and still is used to diagnose all the Covide cases has now been shown by even the CDC to be invalid.


71 posted on 08/25/2021 4:16:19 PM PDT by Captain7seas
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99.95% survival rate. Nefarious politics.

Government may know something about the long-term effects of COVID that they are not telling us.

The vaccines may ward off some of the long-term damage in ways that natural recovery and immunity does not.

But even if those two rather dubious propositions are true, admitting to them would be tantamount to admitting that the virus was a designed bioweapon released by China. And Joe Biden absolutely cannot afford to cross China in any way, for any reason.

So this game of "Shut up and eat your peas!" with no explanations provided will continue indefinitely.

72 posted on 08/25/2021 4:25:59 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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