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Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester. It's clear why the cop who shot her was exonerated
LA Times ^ | 08/24/21 | Nicholas Goldberg

Posted on 08/24/2021 6:51:49 PM PDT by Robwin

Babbitt crossed a line that had been clearly delineated. The police obviously felt it was a last stand. The potential danger was obvious. Babbitt’s shooting appears to have stopped the forward movement of the crowd. All this happened on a day when the vice president’s life had been threatened, and when police were being savagely beaten elsewhere in the building.

Could the mob possibly have been stopped without Babbitt’s death? Maybe. Perhaps there was a way to have avoided deadly force. But it’s not clear to me what that way would have been — and it is clear that if Babbitt had gone through that doorway, an out-of-control situation would have deteriorated further.

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This was a riot, Ashli Babbitt was at its vanguard and, based on what I’ve seen, the police officer who shot her was doing his job.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ashlibabbitt; babbitt; banglist; bs; capitol; capitolriot; fakenews; jan6th; nicholasgoldberg
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To: Robwin

The man down the hall had a clear, straight shot. Schumer was suupsedly in the hall just 10 seconds prior, too. Sullivan was not in view but was perfectly positioned to record the shooting. Blue hoodie guy who was likely antifa said on tape that someone pulled him back/warned him off from being first to crawl through.

I only saw one person turn and run after the shooting. Others remained. I didn’t see anyone administer first aid at first.


61 posted on 08/25/2021 11:00:31 AM PDT by combat_boots (Hi God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! )
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To: GingisK

Perceived conservatives and Christians are obvious dangers to anyone around them and are eligible to be shot on sight.


62 posted on 08/25/2021 1:41:40 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefen)
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To: arthurus

Are you daft? There was a riot going on; and, that window had been smashed and then she went through. It was perceived as a danger to the senators who had been taken to that room for safety. The guard acted appropriately.


63 posted on 08/25/2021 1:49:13 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

So, when BLM and Antifa violently decided to ‘occupy’ building - they can be shot? WOW that’s great if it’s the same... IF IF IF...

If the standard is the same for both sides it’s a win.

We would have lost one person in the last 3 years - the commie thugs would have lost a few thousand. It would really be OK to shoot them? Bloodbath time -right? Or do YOU have a bunch of reasons why assassinating a protester ONLY matters when the protester is a conservative?

That’s my guess.

My take is it’s wrong to ‘occupy’ a government building - FOR BOTH SIDES.

I support protest but not violent breaking into buildings ‘protest’... we agree on that. And hopefully next time Antifa and BLM riot we can have cops shoot them at point blank range - you agree, right?


64 posted on 08/25/2021 2:19:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Iran, China, North Korea and Pakistan are reverse engineering captured weapons as we type.)
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To: GOPJ
And hopefully next time Antifa and BLM riot we can have cops shoot them at point blank range - you agree, right?

If they break into a government building, I surely do agree. If BLM/Antfa start shooting in the streets, they should put down. Should they destroy property or attack other people, they should be arrested and tried.

Nothing would please me more that having BLM/Antifa thugs dealt with quickly and harshly.

By ignoring the BLM/Antifa thug, the various government entities are pushing us to a shooting civil war. That won't be good. It might one day become necessary, but it wouldn't be good.

The libtards need to get an education on statesmanship. They also represent those in their district who didn't vote for them.

65 posted on 08/25/2021 2:33:39 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GOPJ

As I ponder your question, my anger tends to make me think of the good old GE M134. I’d gladly carry that baby to the next BLM/Antifa meetup.


66 posted on 08/25/2021 2:47:27 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: RideForever

Now, if this can be proven true, I’d be really pissed at the government. Can you back that up?


67 posted on 08/25/2021 2:50:01 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: wardaddy; Robwin

Current owner of the LA Times is Patrick Soon-Shiong.

“A South African-American transplant surgeon, billionaire businessman, bioscientist, and media proprietor” of Chinese descent.

William McGowan’s 2001 book described what’s been driving the transformation of the American news industry:

“Coloring the News: How Crusading for Diversity Has Corrupted American Journalism”

In the 20 years since he wrote that the situation has only gotten worse.

https://www.amazon.com/Coloring-News-Crusading-Diversity-Journalism/dp/1893554287


68 posted on 08/25/2021 2:52:16 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: wardaddy; Robwin

C-SPAN, William McGowan discusses his book “Coloring the News”

https://www.c-span.org/video/?167939-1/coloring-news

“Mr. McGowan talked about his book, Coloring the News: How Crusading for Diversity Has Corrupted American Journalism, published by Encounter Books. He said that multicultural journalism has been overtaken by political correctness, contending that the coverage of stories involving race, gay rights, feminism, affirmative action and immigration is often slanted. He argued that editors ignore topics worthy of coverage because of their liberal ideologies and their fear of offending particular groups. He talked about cases in which attempts to accommodate minorities and minority viewpoints have become double standards that favor the “oppressed” groups. After his presentation he answered questions.”


69 posted on 08/25/2021 2:56:47 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Leep
Why didn’t he shoot her in the leg...

There was no leg visible at the time of the shooting.

Unjustified shooting IMHO but I wasn't the shooter pumped with adrenaline as the safety glass in a locked door was busted out and an intruder was crawling thru it........

Just curious, what the the purpose of that?

70 posted on 08/25/2021 2:59:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Without potatoes, life has no meaning......)
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To: GingisK

Nope - I’m ONLY talking about ‘the right’ of a cop to shoot an unarmed protester who is violently going into a building that’s not theirs.

I believe in the law - I believe in the law being applied the equally - color blind, issue blind, ideologically blind.

So if it’s OK to shoot an unarmed conservative women attempting to ‘occupy a building’ then it’s OK to shoot an unarmed liberal woman attempting to ‘occupy a building’.

As long as it’s the police doing the shooting.

I never believe in people taking the law into their own hands. But ‘equal before the law’ - held the same standard? Hell yes.


71 posted on 08/25/2021 3:06:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (Press liars will 'blur pictues of people leaving Afghanistan so we can't see how few are Americans. )
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To: GingisK
Why do you qualify it as a 'government building'? OK, I'll accept that standard, but if that's the standard cops could have taken out a bunch of liberals breaking into a federal court house last summer .

And into a police precinct building and a federal building Trump sent people to protect.

I'm guessing cops could have shot at lease 50 to a hundred antifa and BLM thugs under the 'new rules of police assassination'. The standard YOU are defending.

Of course I know how liberals play the game... they create 'exceptions' that eventually make it OK to kill the conservative unarmed women but never the unarmed liberal woman...

72 posted on 08/25/2021 3:15:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (Press liars will 'blur pictues of people leaving Afghanistan so we can't see how few are Americans. )
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To: GOPJ
I do support the notion that the same rules must apply regardless of the demographics. I also agree that double standards are being deliberately applied.

So, will blogging angrily help, or must something else be done?

73 posted on 08/25/2021 4:00:18 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
So, will blogging angrily help, or must something else be done?

Blogging angrily scares white liberal elites - people afraid they'll be exposed as frauds... So yeah, the Greek chorus has it's place.

74 posted on 08/26/2021 6:33:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (Press liars will 'blur pictues of people leaving Afghanistan so we can't see how few are Americans. )
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To: Tallguy

Under the laws passed by Congress, the Capitol Police is not required to release any of that information.


75 posted on 08/26/2021 6:40:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: lonestar67
The Babbitt family should sue him in civil liabilities and take his 80k windfall for filming his snuff film for CNN.

He's a police officer and enjoys limited immunity. He can't be sued.

76 posted on 08/26/2021 6:42:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: GOPJ
Only some kind of action will save our Nation. We have a real mess on our hands that needs to be cleaned up. Our representatives don't really represent us, the schools have become leftist indoctrination centers, and the media stifles the free exchange of information or ideas. All of that needs to be reversed; and, blogging with people with whom we mostly agree isn't going to fix anything.

I'm an old fart who had no charisma even when young. We desperately need some leadership who can orchestrate an aggressive push-back.

77 posted on 08/26/2021 6:49:24 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Hot Tabasco
...and an intruder was crawling thru it...

I used to think the same thing. Then some kindly Freepers directed me to some telling videos of the actual event. Ashley Babbit was not crawling through the window when she was shot. It is also obvious that she was setup by someone who melted from the front of the crowd and changed his clothes. The shooting was, most likely, a preplanned and coordinated event.

78 posted on 08/26/2021 6:56:38 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

wasn’t she shot in the back?


79 posted on 08/26/2021 6:57:51 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K
I don't know. I don't think so. Most people indicate that she was shot by someone inside the hallway behind the bulletproof glass that was broken. Neither video I viewed showed the shooter. There were two armed cops standing next to her on her side of the glass. They allowed the windows to be broken; and, that took considerable effort and time. The shooter had to know there were cops at the front of the crowd.

It is quite clear that she was setup.

80 posted on 08/26/2021 7:15:02 AM PDT by GingisK
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