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Column: Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester. It's clear why the cop who shot her was exonerated
LA Times ^ | 08/24/21 | Nicholas Goldberg

Posted on 08/24/2021 6:51:49 PM PDT by Robwin

Babbitt crossed a line that had been clearly delineated. The police obviously felt it was a last stand. The potential danger was obvious. Babbitt’s shooting appears to have stopped the forward movement of the crowd. All this happened on a day when the vice president’s life had been threatened, and when police were being savagely beaten elsewhere in the building.

Could the mob possibly have been stopped without Babbitt’s death? Maybe. Perhaps there was a way to have avoided deadly force. But it’s not clear to me what that way would have been — and it is clear that if Babbitt had gone through that doorway, an out-of-control situation would have deteriorated further.

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This was a riot, Ashli Babbitt was at its vanguard and, based on what I’ve seen, the police officer who shot her was doing his job.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ashlibabbitt; babbitt; banglist; bs; capitol; capitolriot; fakenews; jan6th; nicholasgoldberg
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A columnist for the LA Times does his best to justify the execution of Ashli. Due to space limitations I selected only those portions which represent his rationale for why it was permissible to shoot her.

According to him Ashli was the leader of a deadly mob and when the officer shot her the threatening crowd was stymied. His article states the shooting took place when this was occurring: when police were being savagely beaten elsewhere in the building.

Most of here are probably to young to remember when the LA Times was considered somewhat of a Conservative newspaper. How far if has fallen.

1 posted on 08/24/2021 6:51:49 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Robwin

Well, they finally come up with a spin. What took so long. If this was true, it would have been headlines Day 1!


2 posted on 08/24/2021 6:54:00 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Robwin

For the Times reporter to be considered ‘serious’, you have to go and explain the story that plastic water bottles, backpacks, and flagpoles are all serious weapons in the eyes of the Capital Police.


3 posted on 08/24/2021 6:56:09 PM PDT by pepsionice
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Ashli taunts the gunman. Awaits for the gunman to get into position. Then when signaled by two actors, Ashli is assisted enters the gunman’s line of fire through the window frame.

Who does that? Do trained AF vets do that?


4 posted on 08/24/2021 6:56:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Robwin

I am sure there is video.

It’s probably been scrubbed.


5 posted on 08/24/2021 7:00:23 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Robwin

Why didn’t he shoot her in the leg or better still why didn’t he fire a warning shot?
That’s what leftists ask in other cases.
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6 posted on 08/24/2021 7:01:01 PM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: Robwin

Ludicrous.

How could murdering one person randomly out of a large number have somehow made any difference?

If shooting her was necessary then shooting dozens or even hundreds would have been necessary.

This argument is specious and does nor reflect any factual details.


7 posted on 08/24/2021 7:01:55 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Leep

>> Why didn’t he shoot her in the leg

The barrel of the gun was virtually parallel to the ground when the muzzle flashed — a blank round to her hip.


8 posted on 08/24/2021 7:03:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Robwin

Yet the corrupt Capitol Police refuse to release the 14,000 hours of video tape which could exonerate the murdering cop and prove his innocence plus prove the guilt or innocence of all the political prisoners in DC Gitmo.

I call BS.


9 posted on 08/24/2021 7:05:07 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftists/Leftism ruins everything it touches. Leftism is a toxic moral pestilence.)
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To: Robwin

She made no threats or broke anything. She had no weapons or anything else in her hand. She was just picked out to be shot.


10 posted on 08/24/2021 7:05:41 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe v)
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To: Vermont Lt

There were pictures. There was a picture of the cop with the gun raised and his finger on the trigger with her NOT or not yet in the window. With his finger on the trigger he had already determined or been told to shoot someone.


11 posted on 08/24/2021 7:08:02 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe x)
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To: Robwin

So when can we expect Mr. Goldberg to argue that Kyle Rittenhouse was justified and is therefore innocent?


12 posted on 08/24/2021 7:09:04 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (If black lives matter, why do black people keep shooting each other? )
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To: Robwin
Could the mob possibly have been stopped without Babbitt’s death? Maybe. Perhaps there was a way to have avoided deadly force.

Remember that next time a mob threatens.

Apparently, you’re allowed one free kill…

13 posted on 08/24/2021 7:11:30 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Boomer

The 14k hours of video could show FBI agent provocateurs at work, inciting the mob? Is this why they have not been released?


14 posted on 08/24/2021 7:13:41 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The crowd was chanting "Death to America", but they were a mostly friendly crowd.)
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To: Robwin

Attempting to breach a plainly locked door in the Capitol, with no justification for being there amid a mob, will not end well.

Were the party labels reversed, I expect there would be much support here for perforating an Antifa attempting to breach a plainly locked door in the Capitol with no justification for being there amid a mob.

It’s not a political matter, it’s just an obvious security matter. Sure I’ll get berated for this post, but point remains: play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


15 posted on 08/24/2021 7:13:51 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: Robwin

Here I go again, having to question the dosage of my blood pressure medicine. This kind of trash article is not good for my health.


16 posted on 08/24/2021 7:14:05 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Robwin
and when police were being savagely beaten elsewhere in the building.

Show us your evidence that confirms this statement Nick Goldberg.

17 posted on 08/24/2021 7:17:13 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robwin

One would have thought that the cop would have fired a shot when the Antifa perps were smashing the windows of the doors with various items. He only shoots when an unarmed woman, who isn’t breaking anything, climbs up to look through the broken window.


18 posted on 08/24/2021 7:19:37 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Magnatron
Remember that next time a mob threatens. Apparently, you’re allowed one free kill

Nope. Not true if one is a Conservative or Trump supporter. There is a double standard. What you said applies only to the Left or Democrats. Should Conservatives or Trump supporters try this, they will find themselves facing a Leftist Judge along with a Leftist Prosecutor and Kangaroo Jury.

19 posted on 08/24/2021 7:20:01 PM PDT by sport
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To: Robwin

Using Mr. Goldberg’s “justification” for the shooting of Ashli Babbitt would he have felt the same if last summer police from NYC to LA and dozens of other cities fired on the “peaceful” mobs of BLM and Antifa thugs who were burning and looting? Somehow I doubt it. It shows you how far the left has the stretch the truth to justify their warped thinking.


20 posted on 08/24/2021 7:20:19 PM PDT by dowcaet
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