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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
The reality is you do not know what she may know or where she is getting her information from. There have been two studies now that claim there is graphene oxide in the vaccines. But to me even that is irrelevant. What is relevant is that there have been far too many life changing injuries, as well as, deaths. I am really quite glad that you and many others have not experienced these adverse affects that number now in the millions. I refuse to take something where I too might number within those millions.

Even though it is still in the experimental stage, and not FDA approved, they are talking about it being mandated, even for those who have had this so-called Covid-19 virus and their God-given immune system has defeated it they still want to vaccinate these people too. That has never been done before. Where is the science that shows they too must be vaccinated?

In 1901 a deadly smallpox epidemic tore through the Northeast, prompting the Boston and Cambridge boards of health to order the vaccination of all residents. But some refused to get the shot, claiming the vaccine order violated their personal liberties under the Constitution.

One of those holdouts, a Swedish-born pastor named Henning Jacobson, took his anti-vaccine crusade all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. The nation's top justices issued a landmark 1905 ruling that legitimized the government’s authority to “reasonably” infringe upon personal freedoms during a public health crisis by issuing a fine to those who refused vaccination. The fine was 5.00, which was hefty back then but was not draconian.

But that is not what they are proposing here. They are proposing that you lose every civil right the Constitution affords its citizens, which is draconian to the nth degree.

Since the CDC, and the NIH, and especially Fauci have told so many lies, and they are outright lies, no one believes what they tell us anymore. Vaccines are big, no, really big business, and those invested in them have a really big financial interest in them.

Fauci has made millions from vaccines, and he once referred to HCQ as a vaccine. He knew that these drugs readily available, inexpensive, and so safe to use that pregnant women, and nursing mothers, can use them. But when President Trump mentioned them all of a sudden the campaign was on to make them very dangerous alternatives. You have to ask why that was the case. Was it because they were truly concerned about the citizens, or was it because they made no money for the pharmaceutical companies which destroys their personal investments? I'll let you chose which one you think is the correct answer.

This vaccine hesitancy is two fold, lying by what were once trusted government institutions, and the promotion of a drug that has indeed caused so many issues for a virus that has a 99+% of survival rate for those who do catch it. Before the vaccine was released many Democrat heavyweights were documented as saying they would not take the vaccine, who have now made a 180, and are demanding everyone take the vaccine. Can you explain how they went from no confidence, to exhibiting total confidence, even with so many adverse reactions?

So, that brings us back to why it is important to fight this vaccination push, and why many of us refuse to take it. You scared worried little people who want to force something on us who do not want to take an experimental vaccine that has caused far too many adverse affects, is a bridge too far. Your attempts to belittle us, only causes us to intensify our resolve to fight harder. You have to ask yourself, why are you so concerned what we do? There are many reports that say those coming down with the virus are the vaccinated, but the narrative being pushed is that it is the unvaccinated who are coming down with it. So, what is the truth here? You all act like you know, but do you really know? All the research can't answer that question, because there is evidence to make both cases. But experience has proven to me that the press are certainly not purveyor's of the truth. Professionals in the medical community are afraid to speak the truth, because those who do, they see them lose their careers.

That becomes even more so when there is evidence that the elites want to take control and also want to depopulate the world to about 500 million or so.

So, hang your research.

Others have also done research, disproving your biased assertion that our using a search engine is beneath us. I as well as others have used search engines to find what we have found. Of course, you falsely must believe that your search engine results are nothing but the truth, while ours are nothing but click-baits & lies.

BTW, ever heard of ADE: Antibody-dependent enhancement? These vaccines sure shows signs that they are ADE.

Let us both realize that they are trying to turn all of us against each other, and that neither of us are the enemy of the other. That we must work together, not fight each other, if we are to stop the destruction of this country, and defeat the forces of evil. Divided we fall, united we will win.

I am going to provide you with 2 videos, as I am interested in what you think. I think you will be quite blown away:

A Manufactured Illusion: Dr David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich

Dr. Robert Malone: The Vaccine Causes The Virus To Be More Dangerous

329 posted on 08/08/2021 5:03:26 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
"You scared worried little people who want to force something on us ....."

Where do you get off with this kind of ..... stuff? (was thinking of a stronger word).

I've never advocated for the authorities to "force the vaccine" on anybody. I don't even lean slightly in that direction.

I chose to get vaxxed in March (Pfizer). My wife has chosen to not get vaccinated. I respect her choice. She respects mine. We both read/hear pretty much the same things, but have drawn different conclusions.

Neither of us thinks the other has joined a horde of mindless lemmings. In fact we haven't even come CLOSE to ever arguing about it. (What would we argue about anyway?)

The same with masks for that matter. I've worn them and I've not worn them in public, depending on circumstances. I don't think any government has the right to dictate we must wear them. And I don't "tsk-tsk" at people who don't wear them, and I don't laugh at those who do - even those driving alone in their car.

See, here is your problem: You obviously see conspiracies and evildoers surrounding you everywhere you look, else why would you paint everyone who crosses you with the same broad brush? You saw me scoff at a clickbait article after exposing the true credentials of the supposed "Pfizer Insider / Deadly-Vax Whistleblower" ("Insider" & "Whistleblower" words not actually used, but still deliberately implied by a headline that is not followed up in the article by telling us the true extent of her "Pfizer credentials").
And because you didn't like that, I have automatically proven myself to you to be some sort of an MSM plant, or worse:
Someone wanting to see the authorities enforce vaccines on unwilling citizens.

But if you think you know me better than even I do, then hey, whatever floats your boat. Just be forewarned that I'm likely hiding under your bed or in your closet waiting for you to go to sleep so I can jump out with a hypodermic and inject you with Graphene.

"...vaccine that has caused far too many adverse affects..."

Whoa, stop the presses! Someone has discovered that a certain vaccine has undesirable side effects on some people.
In other news, it has been discovered that a certain medicine doesn't cure 100% of those taking it, and even causes adverse effects on some.
In yet other news, a surgical procedure requiring general anesthesia has not proven to be 100% effective, nor even to allow 100% to come out of it alive.
And in still other news, it's been discovered that neither airbags nor seatbelts will prevent 100% of deaths in all auto crashes. And some airbags may even CAUSE death, especially for those ignoring the dozens of airbag-recall postcards and letters they've gotten for years now.

And as for "far too many" ... who is the authority on that? You, I suppose.

We can look at it from your point of view: 6207 Americans have died soon after taking a Covid vax dose. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that not one single one of them "would have died anyway," but instead we assume that 100% of those deaths were caused by the vax, then it certainly looks like you are correct in your alarm! Omigod! 6207 deaths! That's thousands and thousands who were mercilessly killed by this deadly vaccine! Yes, you're certainly right it is "far too many"!

Or we can look at it this way: 6207 deaths divided by 339 million doses given =
0.0018% - or 1 out of 54616 people died (possibly) from the vaccine.

Given that the best of the current vaccines are over 90% effective in preventing Covid-caused deaths, I find a Death-By-Deadly-Vax risk factor of 1/54616 as something I will not lose sleep over.
And yes, that figure is 90%, not 1% effective, as propagated by the "1% Big Lie" we see repeated ad nauseum on conspiracy sites and unfortunately far too often on FR, by people who can't do simple math, who don't understand or don't care why vaccines are ranked by RRR (Relative Risk Reduction) rather than ARR (Absolute Risk Reduction), and who don't understand the difference between a "Peer-Reviewed Research article in The Lancet" vs a NON-peer-reviewed opinion in the "Comments" section of that same journal.

That's enough ... actually too much ... for today.

If I find time, I'll come back here later and give 3 reasons why I am seeing less and less difference between the Faucists and you "Vax = Massive Govt Conspiracy to Kill Us, Not Save Us" types.

330 posted on 08/08/2021 6:41:55 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (Unity? Of course! I pledge to respect your President as much as you respected mine the past 4 years.)
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