Posted on 06/21/2021 3:16:54 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
Trump: 'I have not conceded' 2020 loss; might have 'different president' now if not for Pence choice
On the possibility of being reinstated as president if the 2020 contest is verified as fraudulent, Trump said such a decision would be "up to public" or "perhaps politicians."
Former President Donald Trump said Monday that he has not conceded the 2020 presidential race, that if the election is proven fraudulent it will be up to the public and "perhaps politicians" to decide how to respond, and that if Mike Pence had sent disputed election results back to state legislatures for review the country "might very well have a different president right now."
"No, I never admitted defeat," Trump told Just the News' "Water Cooler" in an exclusive interview on Real America's Voice.
"We have a lot of things happening right now ... all you have to do is read the newspapers and see what's coming out now," he said, adding that he has "not conceded."
(Excerpt) Read more at justthenews.com ...
Under the Constitution he lost and it’s over.
That doesn’t mean he has to concede.
And, considering all the shenanigans that went on, he shouldn’t.
I’m excited and glad to see the audits and investigations. Hope there are more.
Never concede, Mr. President.
Any one of those legislatures could have voted to certify an alternate slate of electors before the formal Electoral College vote in mid-December of 2020. NOT A SINGLE ONE DID.”
Correct.
And most controlled by republicans.
How many times must be told the truth? And yet you continue to lie. You know as well as anybody that Pence did not have to admit and ratify the electors.
A moral, decent and honest man would have stayed home that day. I’ve told you before and you know that Patrick Leahy could’ve stood in and done the dirty deed that Pence did. But the fact is Pence wanted to stab Trump in the back, and he did.
“If not for Pence choice. If not for Sessions choice. If not for Barr choice. If not for Kavanaugh choice. If not for Gorsuch choice. If not for Barrett choice. The same person made every choice.”
True. Also true is, no one was complaining about any of those choices at the time they were made by President Trump. Pence was seen as a solid “conservative choice”. Sessions was the ONLY senator that endorsed him very early on. He appeared at numerous rallies and he petitioned President Trump repeatedly for the AG position.
The three judges were very high on the list Trump told everyone he would choose from. That list was generated by a well-known “conservative” organization and candidate Trump made it quite clear that it is people from that list he would choose from. There was no conservative outcry denouncing that list.
Your criticism of those people’s performance of duty after the fact as criticism of President Trump is nothing more than Monday Morning Quarterbacking.
problem is, he had to pick someone
not many good people to choose from
Most of us were delighted with Mattis. We were wrong.
As it turns out, Richard Grenell is the only loyal person around him. Most of us would have been sickened by him. We were wrong.
I bet most of us even thought that all things considered, Pence would’ve been a good choice.
ok, ok, none of us thought preibus was a good choice.....
So back to the point....he had to pick someone.
I guess Pompeo was ultimately ok, and I think probably Mnuchin.
But Trump did not have an easy job.
I think that "requires" is too strong a word, as the 20th amendment has provisions for inaugurating an "Acting President" if the President Elect "fails to qualify."
Amendment 20
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.The Constitution has a clear process for handling the case where a President is not decided in time for inauguration.
This is why I've been floating an idea that is based on the 20th amendment.
-PJ
As long as we're dreaming, here is a possible Constitutional solution if the stolen election is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
- Mass calls for resignation of key Democrats in the House of Representatives. Special elections fill those seats with Republicans.
- Democrat Senators who won in stolen swing states are hounded to resign. Governors appoint the actual winning candidate to the seats.
- Congress invokes the 20th amendment and declares ex post facto that the President-Elect did not qualify, should not have been sworn into office, and declares the Presidency and Vice-Presidency vacant. This is not an ex post facto law, as it is already in the 20th amendment. The only question is arguing the legitimacy of declaring no statue of limitations on "failing to qualify" and of not letting criminals profit from their crimes (fruit of the poisonous tree).
- Via the 20th amendment, Congress declares the actual winner (President Trump) to fill the vacancy as "Acting President" until the office can be filled by someone who qualifies.
- Via the 20th amendment, Congress passes a law moving the Presidential election up to 2022, and that it will forever be on a new four-year schedule beginning in 2022. This will satisfy Presidential term limits, as Trump will fill less than half of Biden's illegitimate term and then get his own second term. He won't be penalized for losing part of his term because of Democrat criminality.
- The asterisk in the history books explaining the change in the Presidential cycle will forever be a stain on the nation caused by Democrats, along with slavery, Jim Crow, Plessy v Ferguson, and opposition to the Civil Rights of 1964.
Yes, I have always suspected a false flag because of the timing. They had to stop and certified it later, maybe. Then the fences went up and we had an occupied capital.
Like when Bath House had to he sworn in later because “the oath was flubbed”.
Lotsa funny business around these dems.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSTRE50L09A20090122
You sound like your not a Trump guy. Care to tell us who your guy is?
Please stop, dude. Posts like that make you sound totally ignorant. Your understandable passion and disappointment has completely blinded you.
Please stop, dude. Posts like that make you sound totally ignorant.
That’s funny, sweetheart, I was thinking the same thing about your posts.
Bless your heart....
+1
And there we are. The first sign that an argument is lost is when the loser, you, resorts to ad hominem and personal attacks.
What argument are you talking about? Your “argument” is that Pence should have stayed home because he couldn’t have done anything to change the outcome. That’s an argument? LOL.
I think Trump was just hoping the Pence thing or the Jan6 insurrection thing would somehow stall the vote and buy more time to figure out a different strategy. And that’s why he doesn’t mind doing this to Pence
Also it seems like most of the time people say it’s made up that Trump is saying these sorts of things, it’s weird to hear him say it out loud at this point
I think Pence fell short when he headed the Voter Fraud commission for two years and didn’t take the opportunity to look at the process, controls, machines and software. They focused on illegals and states wouldn’t cooperate.
Pence also fell short when he let the medical leaders say masks weren’t for the public. They should have been honest from the start, that they were caught unprepared with insufficient supplies. They then had to reverse themselves and tell us to make our own masks hurt credibility.
But as far as counting the electoral votes of states that had certified, I don’t blame Pence. And even if he sent them back to the states, the states would have just recertified them and sent them back. He would have bought a week or two, but not enough to have stopped the inauguration.
My opinion, we’re on the right course. Good audits in key states followed by good audits in all states. That’s our best course now.
Better controls prior to the election, especially on mail in votes which I was advocating for repeatedly on FR, was our best course prior to the election.
He’s right not to concede but the article’s premise about the process is ludicrous.
Any one of those legislatures could have voted to certify an alternate slate of electors before the formal Electoral College vote in mid-December of 2020. NOT A SINGLE ONE DID.
LOL, thanks 😊.
Trump picked Pence because the right didn’t trust Trump and thought he wasn’t conservative enough. He picked Kavanaugh because he was forced to put out a pre approved list of judges in order to get conservatives to belive he’d appoint conservative judges. He took Barett because conservatives desperately wanted someone they thought would over turn Roe and every single “conservative” vouched for her. Trump took Fauci because Fauci held the position when thr scam came to the fore front. Of course Trump made his choices but without context you’re just pushing nonsense. If the right was wise enough to believe that Trump, from the beginning, was in it for the right reasons he would have made different choices. Finally, Pence made the decision to have zero push back against a clearly tainted election.
We had election laws in 2020 ... what was lacking was the will to enforce those laws.
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