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Cruise ships are sailing again, but you'll find some big differences
CNET ^ | June 14, 2021 | Kent German

Posted on 06/15/2021 5:09:54 AM PDT by Capt. Tom

Though the coronavirus devastated the entire travel industry, cruising took a particularly brutal blow. After years of steady passenger growth and cruise lines competing with each other to launch the biggest and most elaborate ships, suddenly the industry went full astern. Ships like the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess were major coronavirus hotspots, with passengers being locked in their staterooms as the disease spread quickly. Some countries also refused to let ships dock, leaving passengers stranded onboard for days.

It was enough for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to issue a No Sail Order on March 14, 2020, banning cruises from operating in the United States. But 16 months later, as vaccines are making travel possible again, cruising is ready for a comeback. And in some cases, that ship is already sailing.

There will be some changes from pre-pandemic times, and scheduled sailings may be canceled or moved as the pandemic persists and regulations in ports change. As I discuss below, Florida, home to the world's largest cruise ports, is trying to ban lines from mandating vaccinations (as most want to do). How companies will adapt to such efforts will be a fast-changing story.

If you've spent the last year eager to return to the high seas, here's what you need to know.

Grand Princess cruise ship After a COVID-19 outbreak on the Grand Princess early in the pandemic, the ship was stranded at sea for days before docking in Oakland, California, on March 9, 2020 to offload passengers.

Can I take a cruise now? Yes. After a few false starts over the last year, many cruise lines are scheduling sailings for the summer months and beyond. Celebrity Cruises is already back in action with a seven-night (almost fully vaccinated) Caribbean cruise on the Celebrity Millennium that left St. Maarten on June 5. Celebrity also has announced upcoming cruises in the Mediterranean, the Galápagos islands and Alaska.

Most of the other major cruise lines, including Princess, Holland America, Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Disney and Norwegian, also have announced sailings, but with less aggressive schedules than Celebrity. Cunard, however, may not start up again until the last quarter of the year. See our sister site, The Points Guy, for a comprehensive line-by-line breakdown of upcoming sailings (TPG also has a breakdown of cruises by departure port).

Smaller lines are adding to their schedules as well, and some have been operating for a few months. American Queen Steamboat Company, for example, resumed with a Mississippi River voyage on March 15.

Just keep in mind that schedules may change as the COVID-19 pandemic continues. Of course, if you book a trip and it's canceled, you will be able to reschedule or get a refund. Generally, lines also are letting you cancel ahead of time with no penalty. And as I discuss in the next question, your onboard experience will be different than before COVID-19 hit.

Kent German/CNET Will cruising be different? You better believe it, even if it's just in small ways. The Points Guy's Ashley Kosciolek was a passenger on the Celebrity Caribbean cruise and detailed the changes she encountered during her trip.

She writes that the ship was booked less than half full, and all passengers and crew 16 and older were required to be vaccinated (more on that later). What's more, passengers of all ages had to show proof of a negative COVID-19 test result no more than 72 hours old before boarding. Embarkation times were staggered to avoid crowds, and masks were required when arriving.

Passengers weren't required to wear masks once on the ship (more on this later, too), except those under 16 who aren't vaccinated, and they had to be tested before returning to St. Maarten on June 12. The buffet was open, but passengers were not allowed to serve themselves per CDC recommendations. Hand-washing stations were in abundance, and there were no social distancing requirements in the restaurants of theaters.

Those changes are just from that one Celebrity voyage, though. Regulations will vary by cruise line and ship, and they could change (for better or worse) with little notice. Think about what kind of environment will make you comfortable and do your research before booking.

princess-cruises Cruise lines must get CDC approval to resume sailings.

But didn't some people on that cruise test positive for COVID-19? Yes, two passengers who shared a cabin tested positive for COVID-19 on June 10. The passengers, who were asymptomatic, were isolated and a few others who had come into recent contact with them had to remain in their cabins while they were tested. Kosciolek was one of the people who had contact, and she wrote about her experience. No one else ended up testing positive by the end of the trip.

Stewart Chiron, a travel expert known as The Cruise Guy, also was onboard the Millennium. In an email he told me that despite the positive tests, he felt Celebrity's safety protocols worked well. "The mood on Celebrity Millennium after the captain's evening announcement [on June 10] didn't change anything onboard. Passengers continued to enjoy normal activities including dinners, shows, lounges, casino, shopping and having fun."

alaska-galcier-bay-cruise Following a change in federal law, Alaska cruises will be able to sail from Seattle to the Last Frontier without stopping in Canada.

What about stopping in ports? Ports could have their own requirements, like not being able to leave the ship if you didn't book a shore excursion. Your departure country also may have its own vaccination or testing regulations for arriving tourists stricter than your cruise line. Again, do your research.

As for countries that haven't opened their borders to full tourism yet, your ship won't be stopping there at all. That means for the time being, Alaska cruises won't be departing from, or calling at, Canadian ports. Until recently, that would have made Alaska cruising impossible due a federal law that prohibited foreign-flagged ships (which virtually all cruise ships are) from carrying passengers between two US ports without stopping at a foreign port. But last month President Biden signed a bill that temporarily lifted that regulation. Now ships can sail from Seattle to Alaska nonstop.

But until Australia opens its borders you won't be able to cruise there.

What are the CDC regulations regarding cruises? Cruise lines must implement a series of changes designed to limit the spread of COVID-19. Some are required and others are recommended. They include screening passengers before embarking (either through a COVID-19 test or proof of vaccination), isolating and contact-tracing passengers who test positive during the cruise, and installing hand-washing facilities.

Once they've made the changes, the agency will grant permission for sailings to depart from the United States under two scenarios: Ships must carry at least 95% vaccinated passengers and crew members, or lines can conduct a simulated cruise and practice the CDC safety measures with a group of volunteers.

A NEW AGE OF TRAVEL COVID-19 vaccine passports will play a part in global travel Europe travel in summer 2021: What you should know Will I have to wear a mask? Despite some early noise that the agency would require masks onboard, it's not doing so (phew). Social distancing measures are recommended in crowded areas, but they aren't required either. Crew members, on the other hand, are urged to wear masks when outside their cabins.

Cruise lines will likely supply masks, but definitely your own. Either way, the CDC still requires masks on airplanes, buses, trains, and other forms of public transportation. And you'll probably need one when checking in for your cruise.

Are they requiring vaccinations? Most lines say they will require vaccinations of both passengers and crew. And if a jab is not mandated, a negative COVID-19 test before boarding likely will be.

Though vaccination requirements are running afoul of a new Florida law banning vaccinations, it makes perfect sense that cruise lines are requiring them. Even before the pandemic, cruise ships had outbreaks of norovirus. The safety of not just passengers, but also crew is paramount. Remember that crew members live in cramped quarters and interact with hundreds of passengers daily.

Miami is the largest cruise port in the world, but Florida has banned vaccine mandates.

What's happening in Florida? Mostly what's happening in Florida is Gov. Ron DeSantis. Eager to be seen as a leader for one loud corner of the political spectrum, he emerged early as a staunch opponent of any vaccine requirements. On April 2 he issued an executive order prohibiting businesses and government agencies in the state from requiring proof of vaccination. A month later he signed a bill passed by the Florida Legislature that confirmed the ban. Florida also has sued the CDC over its cruising regulations. Mediation between the two sides has failed so far, and the case is in the hands of a judge.

DeSantis insists that cruise lines operating from Florida will be fined "millions of dollars" if they require vaccination for passengers (as employees, a ship's crew is another matter). Naturally, cruise lines, Florida's tourism industry and mayors of the cities where cruises depart say otherwise. (Passengers flowing into Florida to board ships spend money onshore.)

How the battle will play out remains to be seen, but it's likely to end up in court. Cruise lines have scheduled Florida sailings for later this month. But as a potential 2024 presidential candidate, DeSantis is determined to use vaccination as another culture war battle. As the governor has consistently resisted coronavirus lockdowns as harmful to business, it may feel odd that he's taking on such a huge industry. Jim Walker, a maritime attorney told the Washington Post, "this stunt to me just reeks of political buffoonery."

How are cruise lines adapting to Florida's regulations? If no agreement is reached to exempt cruise lines from Florida's law, they could follow Royal Caribbean's route by only recommending them for Florida sailings (while requiring them elsewhere). But as even vaccinated passengers were able to test positive on the Celebrity Millennium, that policy may prove unwise.

Alternatively, they could decide to pull ships from the state altogether and have cruises depart from other ports in other states without such a ban or other countries like the Bahamas. Norwegian has already threatened to do just that. Or they could just pay the fines and keep their policies in place.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Travel
KEYWORDS: china; chinavirus; cruiserestart; cruiseship; diamondprincess; virus
For those Freepers ready to cruise this year 2021. Things will change for next year. -Tom
1 posted on 06/15/2021 5:09:54 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

My kayak is still stored on the blocks


2 posted on 06/15/2021 5:17:21 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: Capt. Tom

Hannibal Lecter-type masks, no ‘community troughs’ of food to graze in, full-body bubble wrap and free vaccinations every hour on the hour? ;)

Yeah, I’m not a ‘cruiser.’ ;)


3 posted on 06/15/2021 5:23:29 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Ditto.

I think china flu-stranded-for-weeks-vessels, have sealed the deal for many, as well.


4 posted on 06/15/2021 5:28:48 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Capt. Tom

Thought about taking some cruises in retirement. But then became allergic to so many foods in my later life I figured why torture myself looking at those great spreads I can’t eat.


5 posted on 06/15/2021 5:28:58 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Capt. Tom

Diamond Princess cruise ship . China virus… 3,711 passengers and crew were quarantined together in tight quarters with the virus present for a month..

The fatality rate was 0.35% (13 people died)… a largely elderly population likely with many pre-existing health issues..

https://virusncov.com/covid-statistics/diamond-princess


6 posted on 06/15/2021 5:35:55 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

And the therapeutics weren’t developed by then. With the vast majority of elderly vaccinated, people vaccinated, natural immunity, and therapeutics I doubt the number would be higher than 2 now (same as the flu).

Another complete overreaction based on fear mongering press and a stupid government.


7 posted on 06/15/2021 5:44:03 AM PDT by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg")
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To: Capt. Tom
"What's happening in Florida? Mostly what's happening in Florida is Gov. Ron DeSantis. Eager to be seen as a leader for one loud corner of the political spectrum, he emerged early as a staunch opponent of any vaccine requirements.

Objectivity lost.

8 posted on 06/15/2021 5:47:39 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Jane Long

IMHO both of you have touched on something the cruise lines will have to adapt too in the future, and that is “changed conditions”.

The developed world’s future is uncertain. - Tom


9 posted on 06/15/2021 7:34:28 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

Sing-alongs at the piano bar are probably still out, eh?


10 posted on 06/15/2021 9:43:58 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Alaska out of SF in 2022 or Bust!!!

I have no desire to go to Seattle.

Open up Canada, Trudeau!


11 posted on 06/15/2021 10:42:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!! In CONgre$$ WE're Disgusted!!)
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To: Capt. Tom

OK heres were we are with Carnival...

For my Aug 14 cruise on the new 6,000 plus passenger Mardi Gras that has limited passenger capacity currently (Probably 30% only) we are waiting still...

The EMails on Thursday and Friday told us we would know by this week...

The final payment date had been moved from May 16 to June 14 and on Friday to net Monday June 21...

That date is also the last date we can cancel with zero penalties...

The passengers on the July cruises got EMails with a link to an application for exemption for the required 5% of unvaccinated (children under 12 and others) After all passengers have paid they will determine how many make up that 5% and pick them from the applicants...

The Aug cruises are expected to receive the same chance to be part of the 5% for their individual sailing...

However Carnival is still waiting on the CDC and the court case results...

If the final payment date is moved again this week or a decision or EMail occurs I will let you know...

I know at least 2 of the items on the list of reasons for exemption....religion, physical concerns etc...

I’ll choose both and anything else that applies to me...

Hopefully one will say...No confidence in the vaccine...or something like that...

Meanwhile in Florida starting July 1 it will be against the law to ask for a vaccine passport...

The Carnival ships dont sail from there until after that date...

Popcorn time....

The MG was absent from the Carnival website for July, Aug Sept but this week the cruises are back and theres lots of cabins...

For Aug the itinerary is changed...no longer going to Grand Turk but to Nassau UG....

Lots of families are cancelling...

Well what did Carnival really expect5 ???


12 posted on 06/15/2021 10:49:56 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Howe”ver Carnival is still waiting on the CDC and the court case results...”
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More court info.-Tom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz0CRFHYZA8


13 posted on 06/15/2021 12:49:40 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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