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At the Bottom of Lake Huron, an Ancient Mystery Materializes
[Sometimes] Scientific American ^ | June 1, 2021 | Aaron Martin

Posted on 06/06/2021 8:29:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The air was likely frigid as the hunter lit a small fire. The caribou would come in the morning—forced through the narrow strip of marshland where he camped. There was nowhere else to go. The land was flanked by water on both sides, and large stones had been laid out in slanting lines to funnel the animals into this bottleneck. The hunter struck his weapon to sharpen its edge in anticipation. In that moment, two glassy flakes splintered away from the point of impact and fell to his feet. They would be buried there for nearly 10,000 years.

In 2013 those two shards of obsidian, a natural volcanic glass, would be recovered from a sample of earth, roughly the volume of a quart of milk, that was pulled from the bottom of Lake Huron, under 100 feet of water. And the story the flakes would tell was one of an even longer journey...

Obsidian was highly prized by ancient stone toolmakers. The flakes identified by Brendan Nash, a member of O’Shea’s team at the University of Michigan, have strike marks and sharp, feathered edges—both telltale signs of human modification. This evidence, combined with the distance to the obsidian’s original source, paint a picture of an extensive trade or exchange network that spanned the continent nearly 3,000 years after the end of the last ice age.

Stone tools recovered from the Alpena-Amberley Ridge are much smaller than artifacts found nearby that date to the same time period. This suggests that a group of ancient people, with a different way of life and system of hunting, existed on the ridge around 9,000 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at scientificamerican.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: alpenaamberleyridge; ancientnavigation; brendannash; canada; godsgravesglyphs; johnmoshea; kankakeesandislands; kenosha; lakehuron; michigan; obsidian; ontario; uofmichigan; wisconsin; youngerdryas
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To: Monkey Face

Absolutely. More and more is finally seeping though the arrogant egotistical control filter. I will fully take your back with your ideology because it has been my own for years also.

Things like “The Vikings could never have been in the Great Lakes because they could not have gotten their boats there”.

Really? They did not know how to walk on land at all? Or build another boat as needed from local trees after they walked the very short distance to the Great Lakes? They were always in too much of a hurry and didn’t have time to do this?

The one who claimed this was the President of a Maritime Historical Organization and the foremost expert. He also went on to say...

“They would have had to tow extra boats from their home port “shipyards” and then would have had to portage/carry them to the lakes so it is impossible”.

What??? lol

So much missing logic. So much narrow thinking as a standard MO...


21 posted on 06/06/2021 9:23:13 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: SunkenCiv

These came from the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.


22 posted on 06/06/2021 9:38:05 AM PDT by llevrok (I'm old enough to remember when the quarantine was to be 2 weeks)
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To: Monkey Face

Pumapunku
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku


23 posted on 06/06/2021 9:38:29 AM PDT by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/zNLpfEDliV0)
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To: SunkenCiv

https://ontarioarchaeology.org/Resources/Publications/oa41-2-godfrey-smith.pdf


24 posted on 06/06/2021 9:39:04 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: whitney69

Please read #21 about examples of very narrow minded thinking practices. Lack of “out of the box” thinking and “egotistical official approved narratives” is extremely hampering discovery, always has.


25 posted on 06/06/2021 9:39:43 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: SunkenCiv
From the lead up I assumed that obsidian came from some exotic location in Asia, Europe, Africa, or who knows where and there was no mention in the article or the parts of the video that was able to hold my interest.

When I looked up where obsidian comes from it mentions Oregon, Idaho, and Nevada. The people in question were nomads and they no doubt traded with other nomads. It does not surprise me in the least that a valued commodity in those days would make it from Idaho to Michigan.

26 posted on 06/06/2021 9:41:17 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Tallguy

I wonder how much stuff got lost on ice over the lake and fell to the bottom when it melted.


27 posted on 06/06/2021 9:42:18 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: SunkenCiv

Or, the hunter could have lost them in a tragic boating accident


28 posted on 06/06/2021 9:42:38 AM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SunkenCiv

And under the main span of the Big Mac bridge is the original river channel. The largest ancient waterfall in the river system was just down stream from there in Lake Huron.

Back abt 10 to 15 thousand years ago, the Great Lakes did not exist as they are today.


29 posted on 06/06/2021 9:44:57 AM PDT by crz
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks, I spent many happy days there fishing always knowing a monster of a fish lurked there. It truly was a fisherman’s paradise.


30 posted on 06/06/2021 9:45:08 AM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: fidelis

“This evidence, combined with the distance to the obsidian’s original source, paint a picture of an extensive trade or exchange network that spanned the continent nearly 3,000 years after the end of the last ice age.”

Looks like more of a painting than a story. So, from a couple of obsidian shards they’re able to conclude that there was trade between Indians leaving in Michigan and those living in California. They probably had a stock market exchange to go with that a well.

The guys that come up with these fantasies could make a much better living if they used their wild and wishful imagination to write novels.


31 posted on 06/06/2021 9:46:10 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Bulwyf

Yeah, when they bring up a Runestone, will they just toss it back overboard? /s

American indian ‘creationism’ rejects all archaeological evidence which points to origins elsewhere, so a true ‘scientist’ would reject the term ‘native american’ outright as a label when performing archaeological studies/research of this timeframe (>9000 years ago).


32 posted on 06/06/2021 9:48:06 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bookmark


33 posted on 06/06/2021 9:51:26 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: logi_cal869

The dig in 09 in WA was shut down pretty fast when they discovered human remains and tools etc that were Caucasian. Indians claimed it was sacred ground and that was it.

I don’t know what happened to the dig in 11 in Ontario. Same kind of thing though, findings predated everything else.

We all came from somewhere, the point is it shouldn’t matter, we all should be under the same laws and responsibilities, no special treatment of any group.


34 posted on 06/06/2021 9:56:47 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Openurmind

Pretty funny hey? Claiming that the vikings couldnt have traveled the great lakes because the lakes were not there.

When the vikings traveled the great lakes, it would have been the 14th century..or earlier if Vinland is considered a advanced point of exploration for them.

The Great lakes had fully formed by then.

How effn dumb can so called “experts” be?

BTW, maybe they better consider the copper mining done around the Keweenaw peninsula and explain how that type of copper got to the mid eastern area of the world. WAY before the Vikings were thought of. To pick up that float copper the glaciers would have had to have brought it to that area first. Then the lakes filled from the ice melt creating an avenue for them to sail up and get that copper.


35 posted on 06/06/2021 9:58:06 AM PDT by crz
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To: corkoman

I wonder why so many...?


Psychology Today

The link between being a psychologist, and having pre-existing mental health issues is strong.


36 posted on 06/06/2021 10:01:16 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: aquila48

Did you read the rest of it? Or the source links from there? Mineral trace fingerprinting is a very accurate science. They also shared that other Obsidian shards found there were from other closer source locations.


37 posted on 06/06/2021 10:02:18 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: corkoman

The booze producers have data telling them that a large number of readers of Psy Today are self medicating with alcohol. Simple deductions sometimes fit best.


38 posted on 06/06/2021 10:04:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Bulwyf

You’re suggesting that we violate the ‘settled science’ of North American archaeology and Native American inherent beliefs?

BLASPHEMY!!! /s lol


39 posted on 06/06/2021 10:07:13 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Openurmind

Thanks! It’s nice to know I’m not the only person who actually THINKS! (Even though I do have blonde roots...)

‘Face

;o])


40 posted on 06/06/2021 10:13:31 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Today, I release myself from previous versions of me that I created just to survive. ~~ Unknown ~~)
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