1 posted on
05/08/2021 9:17:52 PM PDT by
Cathi
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To: Cathi
2 posted on
05/08/2021 9:22:02 PM PDT by
sanjuanbob
(Do NOT buy Chinese Products)
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3 posted on
05/08/2021 9:22:31 PM PDT by
Ahithophel
(Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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4 posted on
05/08/2021 9:23:37 PM PDT by
BipolarBob
(I'm not a thief! I said I'm a cat butler not a cat burglar.)
To: Cathi
5 posted on
05/08/2021 9:24:46 PM PDT by
sauropod
(Chance favors the prepared mind.)
To: Cathi
Bookmarking for later. Thanks!
6 posted on
05/08/2021 9:49:35 PM PDT by
VRWCer
( Greater is He that lives in you than he who lives in the world. 1 John 4:4)
To: Cathi
“Ten Percent for the Big Guy” Biden wants to GIVE the ChiComs and the Indians ALL the Intellectual Property, trade secrets, patents and know how needed to accomplish the vaccine production that is described in the article. He and his globalist puppet masters are determined to do this. THAT treasonous act would give the ChiComs one of the missing pieces needed to successfully engage in biological warfare. This particular piece would allow China to, in advance, manufacture, at mass production rates, mRNA vaccines for NEW viruses that they would create. They’d be able to have their population vaccinated PRIOR to releasing the new virus(es).
To: Cathi
8 posted on
05/08/2021 10:19:48 PM PDT by
Impala64ssa
(Virtue signalling is no virtue)
To: Cathi
Interesting comments. They go from this is an awesome thing to some detailed prior studies and questions about the dangers of this. You do not get a warm fuzzy feeling about this at all.
To: Cathi
10 posted on
05/08/2021 10:28:34 PM PDT by
The Mayor
(I am outraged at your outrage toward the outrage!)
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Derek Lowe can be a dick sometimes, but he's generally intellectually honest when it comes to the raw science. Thanks, Cathi!
The rest of you *PING* if you happen to be interested.
11 posted on
05/08/2021 10:37:24 PM PDT by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
To: Cathi
The comments are very good, too.
The comments by JW Ulm, MD, PhD especially seem to express the gist of what some are worried about regarding the mRNA vaccines.
Basically, he or she is concerned about exactly which cell types wind up getting "infected" with the lipids carrying the mRNA. These cells will express the spike protein, causing an immune reaction that attacks these specific cells.
If the lipids cross the blood brain barrier and cause an immune response in the brain, that's not good. He or she concludes by saying the danger will be greater if additional booster vaccinations are needed, because the immune system will once again attack the same types of cells that get "infected" by the lipids carrying the mRNA.
I would say that a lot depends here on the amount of mRNA carrying lipids that are contained in the vaccine. Even if sensitive cells are affected, if it's not too many the effects will be negligible in most cases, unless the cell "infection" causes follow on effects from the immune response like clotting. In any case, once the cells "infected" are killed off, the mRNA is gone. And it can't continue to spread once shorn of its lipid coating by infected cells because the body has lots of enzymes to destroy any mRNA floating around.
13 posted on
05/08/2021 11:17:27 PM PDT by
pierrem15
("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
To: Cathi
Well, that article is terrifying.
I thought they had achieved a level of understanding of this stuff at least an order of magnitude beyond where they seem to actually be.
They have figured out that we are amazingly complex bio-supercomputers,
and they think they understand some of the programming language, but
they keep discovering remarkable new subsystems with new languages all
their own, and since they have zero liability, the world’s sheeple get to be
their experimental research subjects.
They compound their challenges to success with their “collaboration” and
non disclosures, and their drive to get rich with whatever secret sauce they
might seem to get lucky with.
As an engineer, I’m frankly appalled at their hubris.
(And it wasn’t even God, that designed the stuff I’ve worked on.)
~Easy
18 posted on
05/08/2021 11:43:36 PM PDT by
EasySt
(Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
To: Cathi
Not all the vaccines are mRna vaccines.
Some are based om the adenovirus using old fashioned technology.
20 posted on
05/08/2021 11:51:46 PM PDT by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politically correct poor people)
To: Cathi
Bookmark.
Thank you for posting this.
To: Cathi; gas_dr
Questions:
- Blood clots are a small but recognized risk (4 in a million). When getting the vaccine, should people take a mild blood thinner such as a baby aspirin, tumeric or garlic to further lower that risk?
- Also apolipoprotein A-IV (ApoA-IV) found in olive oil also as an anti-clotting effect. Would it be wise to consume prior to and after getting the vaccine?
- The spike protein by itself is now being discussed as having the potential to cause vascular system damage. This may or may not be through the CD147 receptor. If it is, then could a natural CD147 receptor blocker mitigate some of the damage from the spike proteins? I read that tumeric may be a natural cd147 receptor blocker.
- Likewise, apolipoprotein A-IV (ApoA-IV) found in olive oil, coats the interior lining of the vascular system providing some protection against heart disease. Could it protect the vascular system from the spike protein?
- Finally, Ivermectin + zinc is believed to block viral replication of the coronavirus. Ivermectin is not believed to intefere with the vaccine in any way and won't intefere with the existence of the spike protein or the immune response to it. But could ivermectin possibly block the damage from the spike protein? And if so, by what mechanism? It wouldn't be by blocking viral replication in the cell, as there is no virus just the spike protein.
To recap, the questions are:
- Mild blood thinners to lower the risk of blood clots?
- Olive oil to lower the risk of blood clots?
- Tumeric to reduce vascular system damage from the spike protein?
- Olive oil to reduce vascular system damage from the spike protein?
- Ivermectin + zinc to reduce vascular system damage from the spike protein? and if so, mechanism?
22 posted on
05/09/2021 12:00:25 AM PDT by
DannyTN
To: Cathi
24 posted on
05/09/2021 12:22:07 AM PDT by
Ymani Cricket
( "Pressure Makes Diamonds" ~General Patton)
To: Cathi
Thanks for posting a really good article.
Does the vaccine cross the blood brain barrier and alter spinal fluid?
To: Cathi
This article was publushed four months ago. The bulk of the comments are three months old. Is there a follow-up article to this one that takes into account the vastly expanded VAERS database information accumulated since January and any other specific technical/scientific/engineering information about the actual mRNA serums and how they function in situ?
To: Cathi
Can you give us a one paragraph summary?
To: Cathi
With all the different processes, at a cellular level, it seems hard to believe these jabs are going to go as planned in all cases in this huge variable pool of humans and their biological variability.
32 posted on
05/09/2021 4:37:44 AM PDT by
Pollard
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