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How Nvidia JUST came in to FINISH the Job (R.I.P. Intel) [ARM chips / acquisition]
YouTube ^ | April 13, 2021 | Max Tech

Posted on 04/13/2021 11:07:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Nvidia just made some MASSIVE announcements in terms of ARM-based computers, so they're now joining Apple and AMD in the fight against Intel and their x86-based chips.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: amd; apple; arm; broadcom; california; china; chipshortage; ex86; h1b; india; intc; intel; linux; mediatek; microsoft; nvidia; patgelsinger; paulordelini; qualcom; samsung; taiwan; tsmc; windows; x86
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To: SunkenCiv

I most recently tried a Gigabyte Brix here. Works fine with Linux and plenty of ports including HDMI and a USB-C. And yes, big TV screens are nice.


81 posted on 04/13/2021 4:56:14 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: SmokingJoe

The problem with NVDA and AMD is that they don’t make their own chips. Even APPL. They farm it out to TSMC and Samsung. If there is a supply disruption they will be stuck. Intel makes its own chips but it’s having difficulty matching the manufacturing prowess of TSMC and Samsung. That has got to change though. We can’t let China control our tech industry. If China invades Taiwan, that will leave only Samsung.


82 posted on 04/13/2021 5:02:38 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: SunkenCiv

I like the Pi and other similar boards, but wish one of them would provide 2 Ethernet interfaces. Hmmm...haven’t looked at those for a while, though. I’m somewhat of an anti-WiFi Luddite, until we see better security with WiFi. Heh. Use it only with temporary broadcasts for updating cellphones so far.


83 posted on 04/13/2021 5:10:38 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: SunkenCiv

One thing... A “big TV screen” for me is around 32”. I like to keep things low power after being too far from grid power for six years and having used my own solar power plant.


84 posted on 04/13/2021 5:14:30 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: familyop

I remember the day when a 32 inch TV was like something from Star Trek. Heh...


85 posted on 04/13/2021 6:40:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: familyop

Lots of ports, small footprint, best of both worlds. I share your preference of wired vs wireless.


86 posted on 04/13/2021 6:42:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, I have considered the R Pi.

Lots of ham stuff available. I need to dust of that gear too.


87 posted on 04/13/2021 7:41:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
I've been looking at yet another one, a Pi 4B, 8 gb. But really, really don't need to do that. And the rumor is, the Pi 5 will be out in the next year or less.

88 posted on 04/13/2021 10:03:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"I remember the day when a 32 inch TV was like something from Star Trek. Heh..."

I can still get into one of the original Star Trek shows once in a while. The stage atmosphere has something to do with it, like some of the old Shaw Brothers kung fu films. There's a tranquil quality about them, even in action scenes.

89 posted on 04/14/2021 12:54:13 AM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: Brilliant

You are right.


90 posted on 04/14/2021 3:02:08 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SunkenCiv

NVDA is soaring again!


91 posted on 04/15/2021 12:07:55 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (available monkeys looking for the change..)
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To: SunkenCiv

Given the launch of the latest generation of Xeon processors, it looks like Intel has 10mm lithography working and large scale production finally in order. They are just focussing their resources on higher margin processors servers, and workstations, as well as trying to keep the mobile market. They are ceding desktops, while their heterogienous 3d chiplet processors role out, in 2 years? Of course, Zen 4 will be out by then. I’m sure Apple will have 8, 12, and 20+ core M2 processors by then.


92 posted on 04/15/2021 10:49:25 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: kellymcneill

And Apple still won’t take any market share for their troubles.


93 posted on 04/16/2021 5:53:33 PM PDT by JamesP81 (The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

re: “ FR loads tolerably fast. No graphics card, though.”

I’ve got news for you: FR loads quickly on this 2004 2.8 GHz Pentium 4 w/o a graphics card too ...

Yes, a 17 YR old Dell OptiPlex Pentium 4. Running Win Xp. And the Mypal browser ... PC is USB tethered to an iPhone 6S and using Visible (Verizon) 4G LTE.


94 posted on 04/16/2021 6:13:26 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: AFreeBird

re: “CISC can’t keep up. And RISC is more flexible.”

This isn’t your grandpa’s CPU world anymore; instruction ‘pre-fetch’ and multi-branch decode has changed ALL that ...


95 posted on 04/16/2021 6:17:14 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim
I’ve got news for you: FR loads quickly on this 2004 2.8 GHz Pentium 4 w/o a graphics card too ...

I guess I was too subtle. I certainly don't pile on all that hardware to load FR quickly. I was being facetious when I mentioned that FR is tolerable with it. This hardware is for VERY large databases (2,000,000 records x 1012 fields), and very large spreadsheet calcs happening simultaneously. Loading FR quickly while doing that other stuff is a bonus.
96 posted on 04/16/2021 7:01:50 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

re: “This hardware is for VERY large databases (2,000,000 records x 1012 fields), and very large spreadsheet calcs happening simultaneously.”

Ya .. I’ve got a Win 7 box I run a 3D EM ‘solver’ on, using FEM where an object is described via ‘tets’ (tetrahedrons) ... the smaller the tet the better the resolution, so the trick is to _not_ over-run installed memory in a PC/machine by wisely choosing the tet size and orientation. Some antennas are longer than wide, so, one can adjust resolution to ‘fit’ memory!


97 posted on 04/16/2021 8:11:17 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: rmlew
When Apple jumped from the PPC to Intel, it was long in the making. In-house builds of OS revisions -- including during the Classic MacOS (pre-X) era -- were done on Intel architecture as well, kind of a magic mirror, who's the fairest approach. If Apple had stuck with the next iteration, which resulted (eventually) in the Cell microprocessor (PlayStation 3; Sony, a longtime foot-shooter, removed the option to install other operating system from the PS3 in one of their 'updates'; prior to that, YellowDog Linux was in some use on the PS3), they'd have continued to enjoy a lead, but the delays became interminable, particularly to Jobs, who wanted what he wanted when he wanted it.
Apple's headed for a period of increasing dominance in the mobile phone market, as their power-sipping chips take the lead in battery life but also beat all rivals in processing power. Apple invented the high-end mobile phone for the consumer market ("what about Blackberry, blah blah blah"), and as with the computer market in general, which started to shrink desktop boxes and laptops as the mobile phone tech became ubiquitous, margins have declined for most phone manufacturers. Apple's still raking it in. Their family of laptop (oops, sorry, notebook) and desktop computers have remained profitable (4500 years from now the Apple "Big O" HQ will have the drawing power as does the Great Pyramid is today) and as the cost falls for their butt-booting CPU/GPU technology, the stampede of the industry (other than Intel, for now) into ARM will be breathtaking.
Apple could very well buy Intel (on a dip), but it won't be allowed by our Chinese-owned-and-operated "watchdogs" in DC.

98 posted on 04/17/2021 7:20:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: familyop

BTW, maybe a hat would help with the dual ethernet thing:

https://czh-labs.com/products/rj45-gpio-pinout-breakout-board-for-raspberry-pi-1a-1b-2b-3b-3b-3a-4b-zero-w


99 posted on 04/17/2021 7:22:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I've been an AMD fan for a long time. Not "anti-Intel" I've just not bought into the value-prop that Intel CPU's were worth the extra $$ considering the price/performance ratio between AMD and Intel over the years. I still have my venerable AMD FX-8350 up and running acting as a server hosting a number of Virtual Machines to this day.

The machine I'm posting this from is my Ryzen 2700x with 8 CPU cores, 32Gb of memory and an SSD Raid Array on an ASUS ROG RX-570 STRIX mobo. It's a damn' impressive machine.

I have been following Apple's M1 chip developments and am really impressed by their performance. Seeing that Linux has been ported to it, I'm seriously considering purchasing one. I'm a Linux fan, have been for many years. Kicked Microsoft fully to the curb a few years ago now with the sole exception being my work laptop which was provided to me by the bank I work for.

As for nVidia/ARM, the more competition in this space the better. Intel got "fat & happy" for far too long and innovation suffered greatly as a result. AMD finally coming up with the Ryzen CPU's shook Intel awake a little bit, Apple's M1 chip's performance rocked Intel, let's see if nVidia/ARM can push Intel closer to the cliff or if Intel finally, fully wakes up and starts innovating again instead of simply adding more cores/boosting speed of existing CPU's.

100 posted on 04/17/2021 7:32:23 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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