Posted on 02/28/2021 5:16:20 AM PST by RandFan
Where does the conspiracy theory come from?
The belief that Trump will be sworn in on March 4 is rooted in theories promoted by the obscure sovereign citizen movement.
The sovereign citizen movement is a highly-fragmented grouping of Americans who believe taxes, US currency, and even the US government to be illegitimate.
A minority of them believe that laws do not apply to them at all, resulting in the FBI designating some members as "domestic terrorists" and "anti-government extremists."
A central tenet of the movement is that the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, converted "sovereign citizens" into "federal citizens."
This belief also goes so far as to dismiss the validity of any presidency after 1868, making Ulysses S. Grant the last valid president.
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Why March 4?
Before the 20th Amendment in 1933, all presidents were sworn in on March 4.
It was introduced to shorten the "lame duck" period between elections and the start of new administrations.
Given that followers of the sovereign citizen movement reject all constitutional amendments passed after the 14th amendment, they do not view this date change as legitimate.
QAnon followers, who failed to see Trump inaugurated in January, have recycled the argument and reinvented the next legitimate inauguration date.
They say that on March 4, 2021, Trump will succeed the last legitimate president, Grant, to become the 19th president
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“Who the heck is QAnon anyway?”
Good question, but I doubt you’ll get a straight answer from the Q followers around here.
I have ventured a few times onto their “Q - Trust Trump’s Plan” thread and asked questions - it didn’t go well.
They always start the thread with a lot of course material - links and position statements - and as long as you quietly read the material and follow the links, they are happy to have you there.
But if you question Q’s identity or why it needs to be a mystery, or why the messages have to be decoded, or why their predictions are often wrong...
...they call you a newbie and condescendingly tell you to “do your homework”.
If you ask me, they are a very over-sensitive lot - but no different than any religious sect. Like religious beliefs, they can’t prove any of it, so they cloak it in mystery and get offended when people express doubts.
Because this MSM/Democrat opposition to Q-Anon leads the Q believers to cling to their beliefs — it must be real if the left appears to oppose it. This is a very very clever psy-op.
Q is emphasized by the Left so it can be linked to every conservative and Trump supporter making them appear either ridiculous or dangerous.
Possible.
I don’t remember Q ever writing this.It is simply speculation by some people.
Q doesn't write anything and it is ALL speculation.
Then, when the speculation doesn't pan out, Q followers reengineer the speculation and predictions.
No confusing that they have published hundreds of anti Q articles, tv reports, congressional bill.
I'm going to go with - they perceive the Q movement as a threat, just as France and German do.
Why? Perhaps just because it pulls back the curtain on their evil and exposes their plot to promote marxism and subvert our country.
And if you read the beginning material, you would have your question about Q answered.
Q wrote several thousand things over 3 years... much before it became main street news.
...Q followers reengineer the speculation and predictions.Should be:
...Q followers reverse engineer the speculation and predictions.
Ah, thanks. we have seen them at FR.
Thanks. ‘Someone’ paid the fraudulent rioters. I would bet all roads lead back to the obamaroid running the dnc and poisoning the nation.
The sovereign citizen movement is based on the premise that the law is like magic: all you have to do is mutter the right incantations and doors will open and your enemies will be vanquished. The Mike Spence actually did have the power to reject the electors was actually one of the more plausible, but completely theoretical, variants of this line of thinking (setting aside that it was also completely legally untenable.) The brief popularity of the quo warranto writs option for overturning the election was in the mainstream of this loopy line of thinking. Sovereign citizenry: legal analysis for morons
From what I’ve seen, believing in QAnon is about like believing in your horoscope. I don’t think very many people take him/her/it seriously except the left wing trying to create a boogy-man.
Being a person who has researched Q over the years, I am pretty sure Q never mentioned March 4th.
But that’s the media for you.
This upcoming Thursday? Well it’s my birthday and it would be a nice present but I ain’t holding my breath.
Conservatives need to stop playing into the hands of the media by acting as if this garbage is mainstream conservatism. It isn't.
Perhaps “discredited” is the wrong word.
But like it or not, Q has become the poster child for conspiracy theorists. “Q” has literally replaced the phrase “tin foil hat” as the cliché to describe conspiracy theorists!
Maybe it is undeserved - that doesn’t matter. The fact is that the concept of Q has become a useful tool for discrediting the Right.
I was not exaggerating when I said that lately, every time I declare my support for President Trump, I get asked about Q. Every time.
Why is that? I’ll tell you why - it is because the fake news has launched this as a propaganda strategy - push the narrative that all Trump supporters are Q followers. That way, Trump and his supporters get painted as conspiracy theory nut jobs.
It is quite clever, actually.
The Q supporters love it because it fulfills their fantasy that there are a 75 million Q followers out there.
The RINOs love it because it fulfills their fantasy that they are still the true Republicans, and that Trump supporters are nut jobs.
The Democrats love it because it fulfills their fantasy that the Right is superstitious and that Trump has brainwashed us all.
Look, I know the Q followers are genuine supporters of President Trump, and I know they want what is best for the Republic. Q supporters are good people. I get that.
But, deserved or not, it is undeniable that the Q phenomenon has gained a reputation for attracting nut job conspiracy theorists, and for that reason, Q has become a perfect tool for the Left to paint all Trump supporters as kooks.
Bless your heart....so sorry to take up your valuable time 😉
You’re trying so hard to sound “woke” and in possession of this great insight to save us all! 🤣
Not working....sorry not sorry
Well said !
so you really do not have anything except the boilerplate reply?.
As suspected.
Debate me when you got a better script please. And bring your Plan B if you have one, seems a lot I ask here talk big but when asked they reply with sarcasm and nothing more then think that covers them from being seen as Not having anything really of worth to say at all.
Have a great day precious
Blessings.
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