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Scientists May Have Just Solved The Long-Standing Mystery of Earth's 'Missing Ice'
https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 24 FEBRUARY 2021 | PETER DOCKRILL

Posted on 02/24/2021 10:24:41 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Alas Babylon!

That’s what struck me as well - 47 feet. Based on data that infers what was going on 20,000 to 80,000 years ago. I guess if one gets paid to study this kind of stuff, they need to keep coming up with reasons to get paid.

I’d give them a number, +/- 50 feet and be done with it.


101 posted on 02/28/2021 9:46:35 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: Red Badger

I’m no scientist and therefore probably wrong in this but...

This sounds a whole lot like they had evidence that pointed to an issue and to solve the issue they discarded the evidence.


102 posted on 03/01/2021 7:55:11 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: stremba; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; Red Badger; All

A friend has sold property in Miami and moved to land in Orlando which is 20 or 30 feet above sea level.


103 posted on 03/04/2021 7:29:54 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: stremba; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; Red Badger; All

A friend has sold property in Miami and moved to land in Orlando which is 20 or 30 feet above sea level.


104 posted on 03/04/2021 7:29:54 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: pas; Red Badger; SunkenCiv; All

Have these researchers considered sinking and rising land mass? For example areas of North America and Eurasia are still rising from loss of heavy glacier weight. This also affects the coastal areas as well and will continue to do so. So how does rhis change their ice volume calculations?


105 posted on 03/04/2021 7:39:55 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
Isostatic rebound from the loss of ice that melted has often been used as a fudge factor in this context. This latest study just changes the fudge factor.

106 posted on 03/05/2021 4:41:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: cdcdawg
Oh, that must be why when the ice melts in my drink, the glass gets fuller! Except that it doesn’t. SCIENCE!! Of course, I’m granting them that the ice is actually melting, which is a rather large concession.

Put ice in a funnel and the funnel in your glass. When the ice melts, the water level will rise. Heat the water enough, and the level will drop again. Cool the water vapor so that it falls back into the funnel as ice, and you'll build up ice out of the water. When the ice gets warm, it melts, and the melt water flows into the glass. Rinse, repeat for millions of years. Or seven days, if you're God.

This is what is called a hypotheses. It is supposed to be tested. If it passes all the tests, it will become a theory. If it fails, dump that model and start over, unless the data you collected suggests changes that more closely follow the data. Test some more. Rinse, repeat, until you can't falsify it. Then call it a Law of Nature until we learn enough to falsify it again. Then start over. Rinse, repeat.

Anyone who says "The Science is settled." doesn't know what he's talking about. (Yes, Al, I'm talking about YOU!) Science will be settled after the heat death of the universe, or the 2nd Coming. Which ever arrives first.

BTW, evidence is pretty good that ice melts. Ice in glaciers is on land. Once the ice melts it's called water. The resultant water runs into the sea, where it's still called water. If the glacier itself makes it to the ocean and a chunk breaks off, it's called an ice berg. It floats because it's slightly less dense than water. When it gets warm enough, it melts just like in your glass. Since it's less dense, when it melts it doesn't raise the level of the water. If it was more dense, it would sink to the bottom, and raise the water level slightly.

107 posted on 03/06/2021 10:59:22 AM PST by Old Student (As I watch the balkanization of our nation I realize that Robert A. Heinlein was a prophet. )
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“Because it’s slightly less dense than water.”

Don’t you pay any attention to that, icebergs!

You are not dense!

You may not be as smart as say a garbage scow, but you are fine the way you are!

Dense

There are ice cubes all over the world crying now because some people think they are dense.

Horrible.....just horrible


108 posted on 03/06/2021 11:06:07 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: PIF

Yes, I’ve read it, and I understand what he’s saying - that there was a worldwide flood and that geology is all screwed up.


109 posted on 03/07/2021 6:17:58 AM PST by OldWPGrad
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he’s saying - that there was a worldwide flood and that geology is all screwed up.

He’s saying more than that with the claims for Atlantis and 2,500km asteroid. Everyone that keeps up knows there was a flood when the ice dams on the ice cap let go. The most plausible theory to date is the Taurid shower in 10800 BC. includes much geological, physical, and cultural evidence to explain the events between the end of the Ice Age, the beginning of the Younger Dryas and its ending.

Geology isn’t so much screwed up as the scientists with skin in the game protecting each other with consensus thinking; if the evidence does not fit conventional thinking, or some pet theory, then it is an anomaly and dismissed or hidden. That is the battle across almost all scientific disciplines.

His proofs are not needed to explain what happened. Atlantis is just a stretch too far. Besides, there is more than ample evidence that Atlantis was a misdirection created by the Westerners to hide their trade routes and it got passed on to the Upper Egyptians who conquered the Westerners in the North. From them to Solon to Plato and thence to us.

It is is far more likely that an advanced civilization may have existed in the now sunken Sundaland off Indonesia.


110 posted on 03/07/2021 6:50:55 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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