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Scientists May Have Just Solved The Long-Standing Mystery of Earth's 'Missing Ice'
https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 24 FEBRUARY 2021 | PETER DOCKRILL

Posted on 02/24/2021 10:24:41 AM PST by Red Badger

Piedmont Glacier in north-east Greenland (Coen Hofstede/Alfred Wegener Institute)

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It should be simple. When temperatures on Earth get hotter, huge amounts of water ice trapped in giant glaciers begin to thaw, releasing water into the oceans, and causing sea levels to rise. It's the story of our lives.

By contrast, when global temperatures plummet, which happens during ice ages, sea levels proceed to drop, as water content retreats from the ocean, freezing once more in huge inland ice sheets.

This epic, ongoing cycle of ice ebb and flow – the transitions from glacials to interglacials – has been occurring since time immemorial. But there's a problem.

For years now, scientists tracking these cycles have suggested there's a "missing ice" problem: a mysterious discrepancy between very low sea levels roughly 20,000 years ago, and the volume of ice stored in glaciers at the same time.

Ice surface elevation, 20,000 years ago. (Evan Gowan/Alfred Wegener Institute)

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At its heart, the problem is this. During the peak of Earth's last ice age – the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), which ended approximately 20,000 years ago – sea level is thought to have been about 130 metres (427 ft) lower than it is today, based on ancient coral sediment evidence.

But modelling suggests ice volume in glaciers at this point in time wasn't great enough to explain such a low sea level. So how can we explain this 'missing' ice?

In a new study led by geophysicist Evan Gowan from the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany, researchers appear to have found a solution.

With a new reconstruction called PaleoMIST 1.0, the researchers were able to model the evolution of global ice sheets way into the past, much farther back than even the LGM.

"It looks like we've found a new way to reconstruct the past as far back as 80,000 years," Gowan says.

The results of the model suggest the anomaly in our data isn't a case of missing ice, but rather mistaken inferences about how low the sea level actually fell during the LGM.

According to PaleoMIST 1.0's ice physics model, the sea level dropped no more than 116 metres below where the waves lap today, with ice volume (being fully accounted for) clocking in somewhere around 42.2 × 106 km3.

"We, therefore, find no basis for the missing ice problem, as our LGM reconstruction is compatible with existing sea-level constraints," the researchers explain in their study.

According to the team, the misdirection of the missing ice argument stems from a couple of factors – firstly, over-reliance on far-field indicators (coral sediment evidence from locations elsewhere in the world), which may not accurately represent global average sea levels as we once thought they did.

Another issue is a long-established but seemingly flawed method used to estimate glacier masses, oxygen isotope ratio cycles – which appears to produce discrepancies when reconciling sea-level height and glacier masses as far back as the LGM, at least.

"The isotope model has been used widely for years to determine the volume of ice in glaciers up to many millions of years before our time," says one of the team, geophysicist Paolo Stocchi from the Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research.

"Our work now raises doubts about the reliability of this method."

While the missing ice mystery appears to be solved, the researchers don't expect theirs will be the last word on this topic.

After all, their own solution's incompatibility with oxygen isotope ratio cycle-based reconstructions has, in a way, "created a new missing ice problem", the team admits.

Whether and how that new uncertainty can be resolved is a challenge for another day, in future research that may yield even clearer glimpses of ice sheet evolution in the distant past.

The findings are reported in Nature Communications.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; History; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; lastglacialmaximum; lateglacialmaximum; lgm; missingice
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1 posted on 02/24/2021 10:24:41 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

“When temperatures on Earth get hotter, huge amounts of water ice trapped in giant glaciers begin to thaw, releasing water into the oceans, and causing sea levels to rise.”

Oh, that must be why when the ice melts in my drink, the glass gets fuller! Except that it doesn’t. SCIENCE!! Of course, I’m granting them that the ice is actually melting, which is a rather large concession.


2 posted on 02/24/2021 10:29:08 AM PST by cdcdawg (“we have to bring these people in.”)
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To: Red Badger

So the science wasn’t settled?

L


3 posted on 02/24/2021 10:29:40 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Red Badger

4 posted on 02/24/2021 10:30:21 AM PST by z3n
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To: Red Badger

Wouldn’t the mass glaciation result in higher salinity
in the remaining body of sea water?
Isn’t there some way to detect this ?


5 posted on 02/24/2021 10:30:30 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Lurker

It never is...................


6 posted on 02/24/2021 10:30:52 AM PST by Red Badger (SLEAZIN' is the REASON for the TREASON .................................)
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To: cdcdawg

Only sea ice does that glaciers are mostly on land hence they are not displacing water so yes they would raise sea levels


7 posted on 02/24/2021 10:31:41 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Red Badger

Who would have thunk that something that everyone in the field knew was a fact is not a fact. As Reagan said, “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”


8 posted on 02/24/2021 10:32:33 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Red Badger

“Unexpected “

“Follow the science!!!”


9 posted on 02/24/2021 10:32:36 AM PST by datura
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To: Lurker

Science does not get “unsettled” until the old scientists die.

;-)


10 posted on 02/24/2021 10:33:36 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cdcdawg

Put 6 ice cubes on aluminum foil and let them thaw into your full cup and see if it runneth over.


11 posted on 02/24/2021 10:34:34 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: cdcdawg
Oh, that must be why when the ice melts in my drink, the glass gets fuller!

You're conflating glaciers, which form on land, and icebergs floating at sea. A floating iceberg melting won't change the water level, but a glacier located on land, melting into the sea, will change the water level.

12 posted on 02/24/2021 10:36:12 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Red Badger
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13 posted on 02/24/2021 10:36:42 AM PST by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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To: cgbg
Just when we think we've found everything there is to know, we find out there's something else we didn't know.

Science is never settled, if you ask me...but what do I know? lol

14 posted on 02/24/2021 10:38:35 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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15 posted on 02/24/2021 10:39:14 AM PST by Red Badger (SLEAZIN' is the REASON for the TREASON .................................)
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To: Red Badger
380 feet versus 427...

You could still walk from France to England, from Europe to Asia via the Bosporus, Saudi Arabia to Iran, India to Sri Lanka, Malaysia to Sumatra and Borneo, and New Guinea to Australia.

How much would the 47 foot difference shrink Florida?


16 posted on 02/24/2021 10:39:44 AM PST by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: cdcdawg

Groundwater from deep aquifers drain into the oceans, as well as fresh water springs welling up. Together they may account for a mm or more of sea level rise, just what the warmists think is caused by climate change.


17 posted on 02/24/2021 10:40:08 AM PST by hinckley buzzard (resist the narrative)
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To: Night Hides Not

The old scientists control the grant money.

That is why so much progress can be made after they die.


18 posted on 02/24/2021 10:40:42 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: al baby
...glaciers are mostly on land...

And icebergs are mostly in the oceans...................

19 posted on 02/24/2021 10:40:53 AM PST by Red Badger (SLEAZIN' is the REASON for the TREASON .................................)
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To: cdcdawg

what you are saying is technically true, but what they are referring to is ice trapped in glaciers on land. So to use your example get two glasses of ice and melt them one representing the ice in the ocean and the other the ice on the land trapped in glaciers. Then after melting both, pour the one into the other.


20 posted on 02/24/2021 10:43:05 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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