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1 posted on 02/16/2021 9:04:11 PM PST by hapnHal
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No.


2 posted on 02/16/2021 9:05:15 PM PST by ifinnegan (Any saying " Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Don’t trust anyone on this. If there is they’ll lie to your face.


3 posted on 02/16/2021 9:07:01 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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By my understanding, for some vaccines, they are the initial source of testing objects used in development.


4 posted on 02/16/2021 9:09:08 PM PST by Yossarian
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hapnHal, I hate to post without documentation, but I saw the following chart and downloaded it without copying what the source of the information was. However, it's too important a subject to not respond to. The best I can remember is that it was from an institute on morality. So, for what it's worth:



6 posted on 02/16/2021 9:24:23 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (~~To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~)
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No, that is an urban legend. They only TEST them on aborted baby parts. They even know it was a boy and it was from 1973 or something.

They say that somehow, that is completely different.


7 posted on 02/16/2021 9:25:30 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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So like, your lamp is NOT made from dead Jews at Auschwitz. Only the lamp SHADE was. I think it’s sorta like that.


8 posted on 02/16/2021 9:28:44 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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No


9 posted on 02/16/2021 9:30:06 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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The first 2 from Pfizer and Moderna were TESTED using aborted fetal cells, but the vaccines do not CONTAIN lines from them.

The 3rd, Astrazenica was developed from aborted fetal cells.

I will have to spend time to retrieve my sources.

10 posted on 02/16/2021 9:30:22 PM PST by G Larry (Authority is vested in those to whom it applies.)
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There are multiple covid vaccines.

The one about whom the rumour of “it uses aborted baby parts” is the AstraZeneca vaccine

AstraZeneca did use the HEK 293 cell line to manufacture its vaccine (and Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna in the design of their vaccines). These cells originate from a baby which was aborted in the Netherlands in 1973.

The baby was not aborted for the purpose of vaccine research.

Over the decades that followed, these cells have been cloned and replicated, many times. Dr Paul Offit, an immunisation expert from the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia who sits on the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) vaccine advisory committee, describes these as “standardized cell lines”. Professor Helen Petousis Harris says the cells used today are “distant descendants” of the original cells. They are from decades-old, long over abortions, and researchers do not use fetal cells from the present day.

The vaccine does not “contain” the aborted baby’s cellular material. The viral molecules grown in these cells are chemically and physically separated from the cells in which they were incubated and do not make it into the final product.


11 posted on 02/16/2021 9:35:28 PM PST by Cronos
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptFjHTyCJTc


12 posted on 02/16/2021 9:36:09 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal (I believe it! He's alive! Sweet Jesus!)
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type MRC-5 into your search engine.


15 posted on 02/16/2021 9:37:40 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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Do the Covid-19 vaccines contain aborted baby body parts?

No.

It is being reported that aborted baby cell lines are being used in Covid-19 vaccines.

For many of these vaccines, or other medicines, stem cells that were grown from a line that was originally harvested from unborn babies are used in testing and development. They are not in the product themselves, and they do not require new aborted babies to supply more, as the cells are grown from other cells that were already harvested years ago.

Bottom line covid vaccines do not encourage or incentive more abortion. A more serious problem is the safety of the vaccines. They are not as safe as standard vaccines that people take for small pox and such, but are messenger RNA based and can have unpredictable side effects, and they were rushed and not well tested.

21 posted on 02/16/2021 9:51:33 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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Do a search.

You will find that the vaccines produced in the US are fine. If you live in Europe, you are a barbarian who eats babies anyway.

Why cant people just do searches? This has been discussed a dozen times. My wife is a writer for a catholic health system and she did a big news thing about this two months ago, a month ago, and last week.

It’s not like the information isn’t out there. And yet people come here hand wringing.


26 posted on 02/16/2021 10:10:40 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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Anyone who would knowingly ingest or inject the flesh of a murdered baby as a elixir of life should merit an eternity in Hell. That act cries out for God’s vengeance.


29 posted on 02/16/2021 10:21:34 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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Do the Covid-19 vaccines contain aborted baby body parts.

Whole Parts? No.

Parts of parts? like Genetic Contaminants? Yes, some.

Distinguo.

Some vaccines are not tested on cells grown from genetic material taken from a dead kiddo.

Some vaccines are tested on cells grown from genetic material taken from a dead kiddo.

Other, like the AstraZeneca vector based vaccine, are not only tested on cells grown from genetic material taken from a dead kiddo.

But... in the manufacturing process actually inject a mutated virus into cells grown from genetic material taken from a dead kiddo, and then are harvested from the cells of the aforementioned dead kiddo.

The ‘moral’ problem *from a Catholic perspective, is not necessarily the testing or the genetic contaminants but rather a question of the Integral good.

TLDR...

The Principle of the Integral, basically, is that for something to be Good, all parts of it must be good.

dead kids, have a right according to their god given dignity to a proper burial. Their DNA is part of their essential nature. Murdered (aborted) children have a right to their own body and are owed the dignity proper of any dead person. At no time did they consent to have parts/aspects of themselves perpetuated, pressed into service and indiscriminately destroyed.

Although the DNA may be replicated and consist of different physical ‘material’, the fact remains that the substance of a dead person is being not only duplicated (without their consent) but is also being used as a factory to produce material, whose extraction process consists in the deliberate destruction of life.

There is a whole bunch of other issues such as genetic contaminants but the Core principals at play is the Integral Good.

Abortion contaminated vaccines are illicit because they are materially complicit in the theft from dead persons as are those who receive them.

Your basically using a human being as a means to an end. (Abortion contaminated vaccines)

The posted chart was sourced here:

https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/

abortion-derived cell lines are highlighted with a triangle.

any use of abortion-derived cell line in the process violates the Principle of the Integral good.

Saint Thomas Aquinas, Whether evil corrupts the whole good?

https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1048.htm#article4

Fr Ripperger discusses the principal of the integral good and movies in this youtube clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn-GNljbNs0&ab_channel=SensusFidelium

Congratulations if you made it this far.

:-)

Cheers!


40 posted on 02/16/2021 11:24:33 PM PST by fjcroderick
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The Facts about the COVID Vaccines and Fetal Cell Lines

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/12/the-facts-about-the-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccines-and-fetal-cell-lines/


41 posted on 02/16/2021 11:24:52 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Whaill Robinson)
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I hate to feel like a slimy Democrat, but the fetal cells weren't used in the manufacture, but the CLONED fetal cells were. I don't feel the difference, but the drug manufacturers believe there is a difference. Another argument they use is they didn't use DNA, but used RNA. Recently there was a story in a mainline newspaper that verified that fetal cells were used, but in order to prove it to you I would have to spend my time looking it up.

Even quicker is to get the movie Vaxxed and watch it. Back in my day they used chicken eggs to make vaccines but today they use aborted fetal cells that have been cloned exclusively. As far as I know, there is no vaccine made today that does not use some form of fetal cells. The ones that say its not in there are lying. They want to deny the verbage but they are used in some way either cloned or the RNA is copied. RNA is a molecule that can be used on DNA to change DNA into what they want. You can argue till the cows come home that RNA is not the same as a fetal cell line, but that's where they are getting it.

Just Google the same question you asked here and see the results that come up.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/you-asked-we-answered-do-the-covid-19-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-cells

I did your search for you and here is the first post that came up. They wiggle and writhe to keep from saying they used fetal cells, then they break down and admit they did, but it's not the way you think, and there is nothing wrong with what they are doing, and blah blah blah. It's not like fetal cell line HEK 293 is a person or feels and pain. He doesn't even have a real name.

We have to ask ourselves why HEK 293 was even needed. Couldn't they make the vaccine without him? It seems the answer is no. The real question for me is can these vaccines we are making and requiring people to take changing our genetic makeup? Do these fetal cells combine with our DNA to cause mutations?

If you pay attention to the vaccine, they are sterilizing some females of child bearing age, some people died after taking it, and other horror stories are coming to the front. Why would you volunteer to take a vaccine for a virus that kills about .3% of it's victims. There has been NO testing. A 15 yo female could take the vaccine and lose her ability to bear children and her odds of dying from Covid is just about zero. Even if she caught it, she probably wouldn't even realize she had covid.

46 posted on 02/16/2021 11:52:21 PM PST by chuckles
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No


47 posted on 02/16/2021 11:55:14 PM PST by newzjunkey (America First - bring on Giant Meteor in 2021)
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YES it does have it. If I could post a photo of the ingredients you could see it does. The Astra Zyneka one does for sure. Also, look at this link https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/02/fact-check-some-vaccines-made-human-dna/3239246001/


49 posted on 02/17/2021 12:32:35 AM PST by JKOWBELLE
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRC-5 Wikipedia tells you it has 14 week old MALE fetal body parts in it.


51 posted on 02/17/2021 12:37:23 AM PST by JKOWBELLE
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