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My friend had a bad reaction to the second shot of the covid vaccine.
myself | 2/13/21 | dallasbiff

Posted on 02/13/2021 12:32:26 AM PST by DallasBiff

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To: nikos1121

We are both 59 and in generally good health. I was exposed and quarantined in Sept and did not get the Rona. The wife and I did the 15 min blood test last month and I showed up IgM positive... no symptoms and did the spit test afterwards. Negative. I think it was a false positive.


101 posted on 02/13/2021 6:20:12 AM PST by Man from Oz
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To: DallasBiff

My youngest daughter (32) got the vaccine. After the second shot she was sick for almost a week. Fevers over a 100 degrees and was in bed for 2 days. Other people I know that got the shot had no different a reaction than a normal flu shot.


102 posted on 02/13/2021 6:23:12 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: All

Well, I’m quite positive I had the covid last February. I took 2 weeks to recover and I’m in my late fifties and still working. As an aside, I had shingles when I was in the 10th grade...doctor couldn’t believe it.

Last vaccine shoved into my arm was in the 4th grade. We all lined up in the hallway and got shot with a gun for measles. My parents didn’t even have to give permission! We now know how giving shots to multiple people can expose a person to all sorts of things...chiefly hepatitis.

I’m out here living life. I have never, nor will I ever have a vaccine for anything. Grateful I still have that choice. When the good Lord calls, I will follow. Peace to you all.


103 posted on 02/13/2021 6:27:34 AM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: DallasBiff

I’m 78

I’ve had two covid vaccinations with only a moderately sore shoulder

I have an acquaintance who had no vaccinations and died from covid at 84

People can bitch and moan and then die if they resist vaccination


104 posted on 02/13/2021 6:32:06 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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To: P-Marlowe

Fairfax County, where I live, does a good job publishing Covid statistics, including a breakdown on deaths by age group. Comparing those figures with county census data, I was able to see that as of the end of 2020 a person on over sixty-five and living in Fairfax had a one-in three-hundred chance of dying from Covid. As more deaths occur, those odds will drop accordingly. That made my decision for me: while there might be unpleasant side effects, the vaccine isn’t proving as deadly as that.


105 posted on 02/13/2021 7:08:18 AM PST by PUGACHEV ( Ins’t coming out of their pri)
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To: Raebie

Very good to know.


106 posted on 02/13/2021 7:27:39 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: DallasBiff

Well that’s fine but your book is wrong. All I am saying is chills and aches are not a major reaction if a reaction at all.


107 posted on 02/13/2021 7:29:48 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Shady

Got second Moderna shot two days ago, no problems other than slight tenderness at injection site. I’m 76, in general good health. Been volunteeering at our local hospital for 15 years; we were encouraged to get vaccine so we can get back to doing the work we love to do. Most of us (all ladies of a certain age) have already had second shot, and we’re all fine.


108 posted on 02/13/2021 7:59:15 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: DallasBiff

So did my doc. He says they are calling it a “hard reaction” instead of a bad reaction. He also had covid and said the “hard reaction” was much like the virus for a couple of days.

He discouraged me from taking the vaccine until I can get the J&J version.


109 posted on 02/13/2021 8:31:05 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: nikos1121

Good. Put it on your calendar.


110 posted on 02/13/2021 10:01:50 AM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine I don’t think we need one,)
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To: Justa

Thanks for the explanation. You seem to think that it is important for the mRNA to be eradicated from the body down the road by the immune system attacking mRNA cells. If you never encounter Covid, would the same thing happen? Or will it just remain in the system, potentially causing problems? Note: I am not much of a scientist.


111 posted on 02/13/2021 10:06:14 AM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine I don’t think we need one,)
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To: MrChips

I doubt it would be an issue if never encountering Covid. My understanding of the mRNA vaccine is it gives the immune system a familiarization of the virus but doesn’t trigger a full on immune response. The problem is after encountering Covid the antibodies then confuse the mRNA with Covid and attack the cells hosting the mRNA, ergo a Lupus-like auto immune attack on the body.

It’s not a big deal imo since the mRNA doesn’t replicate inside the body but imo it will likely damage organs over the long run if it’s used as the only defense. This is why I’m tentatively going with the J&J vaccine which keys on attacking the receptors on the virus which are not in our bodies. I need to do more research on this tho before I get the J&J vaccine.

I’m pretty confident in a year or two ppl will be talking about the effects of the mRNA vaccines.


112 posted on 02/13/2021 12:18:04 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

I would appreciate if if you would let me know what you find out. Keep researching!


113 posted on 02/13/2021 12:36:20 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine I don’t think we need one,)
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To: nikos1121

I am overdue for that too.


114 posted on 02/13/2021 2:16:14 PM PST by MachIV
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To: Viking2002

I know you get a lot of advice, but I just wanted to chime in with one more thing. Traditional Chinese Medicine can be very powerful in a case like your’s where something is off but nobody can figure out what it is.

Basically, over 6,000 years or so, very observant Chinese doctors created a set of theories about health through observation, noting some patients exhibited signs of a faster metabolism, some slower, some hot, some cold, some wet, some dry, and then they divided those up more by five types of disorders they likened to dysfunctions of five systems in the body, and then they divided each of those into types of dysfunctions.

That was combined with observations of how herbs affected those same systems, with an eye to finding herbs that did the opposite of whatever was wrong, to push the body back into the balance point where health lay. Along the way they noted physical injuries in battle to various parts of the body could have similar effects to the herbs, and that ultimately became acupuncture.

I’ve seen the effects of it firsthand, and although the process is unscientific in terms of Western modern medicine, a skilled practitioner who has developed the power of observation it cultivates, and knows how to apply the theory can be scary-brilliant in their ability to understand how to correct what is wrong, in a way modern doctors will scratch their heads at.

If I were you, I would look for a Chinese trained practitioner of TCM, who uses both acupuncture and herbs, with at least a decade and a half of actual active practice, and ideally two or three decades. Just try them for four or five weeks, in which time you should see a mind-blowing difference or not. I would go in expecting to try two or three practitioners before giving up on it, as there is a tendency for them to slip into specialties, or specific types of imbalances they are mind-blowingly ood at identifying and treating.

I’ve personally see an expert in it do absolute miracles on multiple people, and I would definitely try and add it to what you are doing. Things like edema and immune dysfunction are right up their alley, and it would be done on top of everything you are already doing which works.

Good luck and God Bless.


115 posted on 02/13/2021 11:16:13 PM PST by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information, I am under domestic surv coverage, and they will see it too.)
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To: AnonymousConservative

I’m open to alternative treatments, even the more esoteric ones. People long ago discovered the effects of natural elements around us, some lost through the ages. I don’t need the FDA to tell me in stringent terms what will help my ailments. If it produces no negative side-effects, then how much do I have to lose vs. how much do I have to gain? Even my 80 year old mother, who is in chronic pain and was an RN for over four decades, touts high quality CBD oil as a treatment now. I’m about to crash head-first into 60, myself, and if I can run out the clock on the Grim Reaper in relative comfort, I’ll eat bugs if it helps. Right now, this godawful winter weather has my neuropathy rearing up like an unbroke stallion, and as much as I’m anti-drug, I swear I’d light up a fat ol’ doob if it killed these thousand volt shocks and burning in my feet. All the gabapentin in the world doesn’t tackle the worst of it in this instance. If there was some Chinese thistle and ganja root I could brew into tea that was effective, I’d be drinking that and not a beer. The problem is, I live in an area where it’s a bit hard to find practiioners of herbal treatments. Your advice is appreciated, though - thanks.


116 posted on 02/13/2021 11:40:04 PM PST by Viking2002 (The revolution won't need to be televised. It'll be on your doorstep.)
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To: Viking2002

Hope you don’t mind my checking your state on your freeper page. Not sure if it is drivable, but although this guy is young, he has great Yelp reviews in Birmingham:

https://www.yelp.com/biz/anthos-acupuncture-and-herbal-clinic-birmingham

His site is here:

http://www.anthosacupuncture.com

I also see there is a guy in Montgomery here:

http://www.montgomerychineseacupuncture.com/

This guy has a good Curriculum Vitae in Hoover AL,

http://www.chineseherbsacupuncture.com/about.htm

Here is a place in Trussville:

https://alacupuncture.com/

Best of luck, brother.


117 posted on 02/15/2021 9:52:55 PM PST by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information, I am under domestic surv coverage, and they will see it too.)
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