Posted on 01/23/2021 10:03:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
RE: Dr. Brown’s “personal prediction” is presented by him as having the weight of a prophecy
That is *NOT* the impression I get and I sort of “know” the man like I “know” Rush Limbaugh. He does not fancy himself as having the gift of prophecy ( as in foretelling the future ).
If he does not show any doubt in his personal (emphasis) prediction ( not as a prophet to the church), it is because he is quite certain that a Democrat will serve out the current term as President ( be it Joe or Kamala ).
A lie. Just like Michael Brown.
My very first post, #135, where I linked to Brown's calumny, was from Jan. 19, 2021:
"I truly believe that four more years of Donald Trump would have led to greater spiritual complacency and even triumphalism, not to mention the vulgarizing of our own souls.Four more years of Trump would have destroyed our witness even more severely, as evangelical Christians (in particular, white evangelical Christians) would have been better known for association with Trump than association with Jesus. (As it is, much damage has been done and we have much ground to recover.)"
Figuring that you would not bother to go to Brown's own statement, in #180, I directly excerpted his rants, opening each paragraph with the precise dates -- "Jan. 14, 2021" and "Jan. 16, 2021" -- the former where Brown conjured: "Did we sell our souls by voting for Trump? Did we make a deal with the devil that was bound to end in failure and disgrace?"
So in fact, Brown's 3 statements that I first posted were all MADE BY HIM WITHIN THE PAST WEEK.
I get that you don't like how I've proven, using his own words, that Brown is a demonizer of men. Happy to start posting more Brownstain today...
RE: I get that you don’t like how I’ve proven, using his own words, that Brown is a demonizer of men.
You haven’t proven that even from the quote you posted. All you’ve done taken together with Brown’s other quotes, is shown the he supports Trump’s policies AND VOTED FOR HIM TWICE, but does not idolize him personally. Nothing wrong with that.
The word “demonizer” applies to the MSNBC Pundits, not to Michael Brown.
Just sinful. The guy has you fooled, like an ordinary agent of Satan. You don't need to admit it, you lied about me, about what I posted -- not surprised.
RE: You don’t need to admit it, you lied about me, about what I posted — not surprised
The issue is this - is Michael Brown an anti-Trumper? Is he a preacher who is against Donald Trump? The answer is NO and NO.
The OVERALL picture shows:
1. That he voted for Trump twice.
2. He supports Trump because he looked at his policies and they support Christians as opposed to the policies of Democrats.
3. He is against idolizing any person, Trump included.
4. He warned self styled prophets in church against foretelling the future and telling the church that these are messages from God. He urges them to repent seeing how their prophecies failed to come to pass.
NOTHING in what you posted, not his quotes balanced against his other quotes refutes those 4 points.
His own words condemn Trump as he condemns himself,as I have shown.
Brown even caused you to lie about me.
Matthew 24:4. Repent.
But you deem people making predictions "prophet's...
Do you know any real Prophets?
RE: But you deem people making predictions “prophet’s...
No. If you simply make predictions based on your best knowledge of the situation, that does not necessarily make you a prophet. a prognosticator or forecaster is the better term for these people.
However, when you make a prediction and prefix it with — This is God’s Message, or God Told Me, or Thus Sayeth the Lord, or something similar, especially to the Christian Church, then you are a “prophet” and your prophecy better come to past or you are a false prophet.
RE: Do you know any real Prophets?
Not after the close of the New Testament era and the Biblical Canon was completed.
RE: You act like you are the first person in this world to have fallen for a Deceiver like Brown.
Show me first where he deceived anyone. Otherwise, you are simply using the term inaccurately.
RE: His own words condemn Trump as he condemns himself,as I have shown.
His own words tell us that he SUPPORTS Trump when Trump’s policies are in harmony with Biblical values. His own words also warn us against overly idolizing the man as he is a flawed person.
I see nothing wrong with that. Why Do you?
RE: Matthew 24:4. Repent.
Show me first why I should repent, otherwise, it would be an act of false humility to do so.
RE: A lie. Just like Michael Brown.
My very first post, #135, where I linked to Brown’s calumny, was from Jan. 19, 2021:
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A point of clarification before you call me a liar WITHOUT CONTEXT, If you looked at my initial response to you in Post #262, I was referring to your list of quotes from Michael Brown in your Post #224. All of those quotes were dated 2016 BEFORE the November 2016 elections. THAT WAS THE CONTEXT OF MY RESPONSE.
But I DID address your later post where you quoted Brown’s quotes in January 2021 in Post #283 (from your post in #282).
So, where’s the lie? I was addressing SPECIFIC POSTS OF YOURS.
And as for you, you have not even come close to addressing the points I made.
Give me some examples of the posts that you said that God told them to say it.
David was anointed the true King of Israel when God withdrew his favor from Saul. Still David had to flee and hide in the wilderness for a period of years and he would not even kill Saul when he had the chance until God had set the final act of Saul’s destruction in motion. Only then, and not by David’s hand, could David be truly king!
Trump may be the “true president” but the hardness in the heart of our deep state bureaucracy won’t let him be such...to our nation’s folly; sometimes that is how God punishes a nation by leaving us to wallow in the slime pit of our own devices. It sucks for the righteous but we must have courage and faith that God will lead us out the otherside!
I came to that conclusion a week before the election when Melania made a plaintive speech for Trump support and urging homosexual rights groups and minorities to consider how much Trump has supported them and has treated them fairly. At that point in the speech my heart sank and I knew Trump wouldn’t be president...not because he had treated the immoral fairly as he has tried to treat all Americans fairly and has stood for some worthy goals.
We have a considerable number in this land that denies Christ and all that is good and decent. The world again is being deluded into thinking that Barrabas is good and Christ is evil. I fear that Barrabas is what we shall be given.
You're lying again. Not only that, you're attempting to parse your own posts specifically to continue your prevarications and run away from the truth.
"I did notice that ALL of the quotes you posted were BEFORE the November 2016 elections. That was the time when MANY people ( FReepers included ) had RESERVATIONS about Donald Trump."
That can only be interpreted as "I did notice that ALL of the quotes you posted were BEFORE the November 2016 elections".
You made no attempt to quantify or qualify your language, you made no attempt to directly cite my posts; and if now you seek to use your imprecision as a defense, or somehow rely on your overall lack of lucidity as an excuse, that's between you and your Deceiver.
RE: That can only be interpreted as “I did notice that ALL of the quotes you posted were BEFORE the November 2016 elections
Again, you conveniently IGNORE the fact that my statement was IN RESPONSE TO ONE OF YOUR SPECIFIC POSTS. NOT ALL OF YOUR OTHER POSTS. *THAT* Specific post only highlighted Dr. Browns quotes before the 2016 election.
And I DID respond to your subsequent post too.
And I am qualifying it now as I have more than once. It’s not my fault that you ignore my qualifications.
And again, you still have not addressed the points I raised. I wonder why... I have to sadly conclude at this point that reason is NOT on your side.
RE: Give me some examples of the posts that you said.
Read about a few of them here:
Others are from a few pastors of Charismatic Churches whose tapes were shared with me by friends.
If you’re saying that Biblical prophets have ceased to exist after the close of the New Testament era, I will say that I tend to agree with you but with the caveat that we cannot limit God and what He can do today.
I cannot say categorically that because God has spoken in the past, therefore, He will not speak again through prophetic ministry today.
However, every single utterance by someone who calls himself a prophet of God, even those who foretell the future, have to be judged based on Biblical teachings. God does not contradict Himself.
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