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Who shot an unarmed Ashli at the capital? Has anyone been named yet? (Posted in Chat)
Me | 1/8/21 | GeorgiaDawg32

Posted on 01/08/2021 6:15:48 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32

I haven't seen anything regarding this.

The flip side is, if an unarmed black blm/antifa female had been shot, DC would be in flames.

But we're the violent domestic terrorists.


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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Agreed without reservation.


21 posted on 01/08/2021 7:01:10 AM PST by Swiffer_Ralf (Orig. Eureka_Lead)
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To: Buttons12
One video appears to show a bracelet and a flashy cufflink, so it was more likely a female.

Not necessarily. Many more men than women wear French cuffs. Many men wear bracelets. Look at the surroundings. It's all men. A woman would have stood out like a sore thumb. Looks like a male who dresses well. A male who is either a member of Congress or a senior staff member.

22 posted on 01/08/2021 7:04:27 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Too many people know who did it. If the shooter is a white guy, the news will leak out.


23 posted on 01/08/2021 7:06:05 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Salvavida

Assuming that what you wrote is accurate, why did only one police officer fire at only one protestor? Why were there no warnings issued (or were there?) Why was no tear gas or other non lethal response deployed before the mob approached the perimeter where lethal force would be used (or was there?)

The handling of the police response suggests gross incompetence at the very least.


24 posted on 01/08/2021 7:06:53 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ladyjane

Yes, more likely = not necessarily.
We’d appreciate knowing, either way. A legislator has already defended the person, so the legislator ought to be pressed for an answer.


25 posted on 01/08/2021 7:07:08 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

All I have read is that the murderer was placed on ‘administrative leave’, meaning he gets a free vay-cay.................


26 posted on 01/08/2021 7:07:12 AM PST by Red Badger (TREASON is the REASON for the SLEAZIN'.................................)
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To: Kid Shelleen

You must be kidding.

PENCE praised him.................


27 posted on 01/08/2021 7:08:09 AM PST by Red Badger (TREASON is the REASON for the SLEAZIN'.................................)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I read somewhere that the shooter was under investigation, but he was not named.


28 posted on 01/08/2021 7:11:28 AM PST by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: Salvavida
So an angry mob found the final defensive position. And a 14 year veteran should have known better.

She served in the Air Force, not in Congress. How was she to know it was the "final defensive position?" Some visual clue? The whites of their eyes?

By the way, if there is a "final defensive position" in the Capitol bldg, it should be somewhere past the sign "EXIT."

29 posted on 01/08/2021 7:12:27 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: glimmerman70

“Paid leave”, kinda like when Michael Corleone was sent to Italy until things calmed down.


30 posted on 01/08/2021 7:14:37 AM PST by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Just what I heard. Obviously not true. In the video it looked like he was wearing a suit.


31 posted on 01/08/2021 7:15:22 AM PST by glimmerman70
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Careful with “he”, as the the official statement is tortuously worded:

“a sworn USCP employee discharged their service weapon...”

” the USCP employee has been placed on administrative leave and their police powers have been suspended pending...”

https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/statement-steven-sund-chief-police


32 posted on 01/08/2021 7:20:36 AM PST by Stalwart
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To: Salvavida
"What they hell were they thinking?"

The BS Flag is on the field, Marine:

1. There were no warnings posted, no signs, no bullhorns warning anyone that this was a "shoot first, ask questions later" zone.

2. The man shooting Ashli aimed at her without any advance warnings for some time before firing, then fired a killing shot with deliberation. Since when are American citizens shot to death out of hand?

3. There were several armed Capitol Police officers next to, and behind Ashli when she was shot: one actually aimed his weapon at the source of the shot momentarily. If this zone was "kill immediately without warning" zone, why did the other officers calmly watch?

4.You are condoning a policy that is anathema to American citizens and our rights under the Constitution. This wasn't invading a nuke site, this wasn't an armed insurrection, this was a group of ordinary Americans who were trying to get the government's attention while they were voting on our future,

Ashli was murdered - and by excusing the man who did this, you are trying to justify it.

33 posted on 01/08/2021 7:20:47 AM PST by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Swiffer_Ralf

I have a screen shot from the video. It was a black guy, in a suit. SS or congressman?


34 posted on 01/08/2021 7:30:22 AM PST by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: strange1; All

Great, keep it safe and post it when you see ppl yelling it’s a woman.

Lying eyes stuff.... Thank you.

Respects.


35 posted on 01/08/2021 7:33:00 AM PST by Swiffer_Ralf (Orig. Eureka_Lead)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

She is alive and well according to totally reliable lawyer Lin Wood:

https://parler.com/profile/linwood


36 posted on 01/08/2021 7:35:05 AM PST by Kevin C
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To: Chainmail

I stated there was problems with the security break down. As for final defensive positions, they are never marked. What ever imagination you have in your head doesn’t comport with reality.

I am also concerned there was no forceful command. But from the officer’s point of view, all other police have failed and he is facing multiple intruders with a principle task of protecting Congress.

She was not murdered. Murder has a specific definition and this will fail to meet the standard. Manslaughter won’t meet the test in these circumstances.


37 posted on 01/08/2021 7:45:27 AM PST by Salvavida
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To: Chainmail

I stated there was problems with the security break down. As for final defensive positions, they are never marked. What ever imagination you have in your head doesn’t comport with reality.

I am also concerned there was no forceful command. But from the officer’s point of view, all other police have failed and he is facing multiple intruders with a principle task of protecting Congress.

She was not murdered. Murder has a specific definition and this will fail to meet the standard. Manslaughter won’t meet the test in these circumstances.


38 posted on 01/08/2021 7:45:33 AM PST by Salvavida
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Final protective positions do not call for non-lethals. Ever.

The lack of a forceful command concerns me, it is part of training; but if he thinks he doesn’t have time.....it becomes subjective. He is only thinking about protecting his principals.

Why only one shooter? Each person has a reaction time. There was incompetence, but not the shooter.


39 posted on 01/08/2021 7:50:36 AM PST by Salvavida
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To: Swiffer_Ralf; All

Again that nagging itch of logic verses reality kicks in.

After 911.

Last line fall back position.

Security doors, mechanical drop cross bars, doors sheet steel with timber finishings, make them look nice.

Windows in said doors.

Minimum multi sheeted bullet resistant.

So. Givel logic and lying eyes test then the security of the Capital building internal Last lines, or even First lines of security are home depot old world style POC.

Given that we have video of Antifa EXTERNALLY, breaking through several windows using plexiglass type shield.

Unless I am wrong, if that is the level of physical security, choke point or evsc route systems we are lucky that the knitting circle of the east side knitters for Trump did not attack the capitol.

They would have destroyed everything.

Sorry. Not PC... Anyone thinking the main foyer of the Capitol egress doors are the last line level security needs to visit a 7-11 in the hood and see what defendable security setups really are.

Sorry you may find this offensive, it is not personal.

It’s them lying eyes of logic seeing what they see.

Respects.


40 posted on 01/08/2021 7:55:43 AM PST by Swiffer_Ralf (Orig. Eureka_Lead)
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