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To: bagster
AG Bill Barr says CIA did NOT 'spy' on Donald Trump's campaign, slapping down president's claims - and says John Durham's probe is focusing on a 'small group' at the FBI

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Attorney general Barr is reflecting on the calls he made that benefitted President Trump and a few that didn't in his final days in office – as he said the CIA didn't stray beyond its international spy brief in 2016.

Barr told the Wall Street Journal he was suspicious that CIA agents – who are barred from spying on Americans – had spied on President Trump's campaign. The president repeatedly alleged publicly he was spied on.

But according to Barr, it didn't happen. 'The CIA stayed in its lane,' he told the Wall Street Journal in an interview.

Hmmmmmmm.....

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Excerpt:

" He reminds me why he took the job in the first place: “The Department of Justice was being used as a political weapon” by a “willful if small group of people,” who used the claim of collusion with Russia in an attempt to “topple an administration,” he says. “Someone had to make sure that the power of the department stopped being abused and that there was accountability for what had happened.” Mr. Barr largely succeeded, in the process filling a vacuum of political oversight, reimposing norms, and resisting partisan critics on both sides."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/william-barr-one-standard-of-justice-11608318832

Barr would be expected to say why, if there was evidence the CIA was spying on Trump's campaign, the DOJ did "nothing" about it for 4 years.

If Barr admitted the CIA spied, he would have to say something to address why we didn't see perp walks. Barr would have to say something like, "I couldn't move against the pervasive infiltration while America was still asleep; 70% of the gov was bought out by enemies; we had no borders; we had two "private" sovereign Chinese ports; Chinese/UN/other enemies on north and south borders; our military was gutted in terms of morale, infiltration, obsolete hardware and made with intentionally inferior steel ...from China. We would fail to defend ourselves when the Cabal made it's move if we didn't wait to restore America's defenses and erode the battle readiness of our enemies.

Barr says "yes" they spied = Barr either has to lay down all cards or say that the rule of law didn't matter to anyone, including the DOJ.

But note that Barr says the Russia hoax was politicized - he can say that because he publicly ended it.

The NYT is working hard to frame Barr so that he has to choose between "CIA did no wrong", which will be easily refuted later with Durham et. al., or "CIA spied and rule of law is not functioning now, unless it's to protect certain people"."

497 posted on 12/18/2020 5:54:12 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Word parsing:

CIA doesn’t have to spy within CONUS—They have their buddies in 5 eyes do it for them. And FBI did spy—then they had to fake data to get a FISA to cover their behinds.

CIA did not spy doesn’t equal no spying by anyone.


511 posted on 12/18/2020 6:10:12 PM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: bagster

ransomnote~

ransomnote: If Barr admitted the CIA spied, he would have to say something to address why we didn’t see perp walks. Barr would have to say something like, “I couldn’t move against the pervasive infiltration while America was still asleep; 70% of the gov was bought out by enemies.”

“We had no borders; we had two “private” sovereign Chinese ports; Chinese/UN/other enemies on north and south borders; our military was gutted in terms of morale, infiltration, obsolete hardware and made with intentionally inferior steel ...from China.”

“We would fail to defend ourselves when the Cabal made its move if we didn’t delay while we awakened the public, restored America’s defenses and eroded the battle readiness of our enemies.”

Had Barr said the CIA spied = Barr either has to lay down all cards or say that the rule of law didn’t matter to anyone, including the DOJ.

But note that Barr says the Russia hoax was politicized - he can say that because he publicly ended it.

The NYT is working hard to frame Barr so that he has to choose between “CIA did no wrong”, which will be easily refuted later with Durham et. al., or “CIA spied and rule of law is not functioning now, unless it’s to protect certain people”.”
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The timing is interesting - the New York times “needed” to use Barr’s resignation “somehow.”

Barr’s answer will be used to portray him to conservatives as protecting the CIA, while telling the left that Trump and other’s (Admiral Rogers) assertions of spying were lies.

NYT and the rest of the Deep State media need Barr to be viewed as Deep State, so that when they try to flip the US to the Dark Side (coup, all black hats are declared white hats etc.), Barr’s knowledge of the Mueller Coup is invalidated, elevating Mueller, the Mueller Report’s claim that Trump committed treason, RR, Weisman, Strzok - all to “persecuted white hat status”.

So the NYT will now fan the “Barr is Deep State” pysop, but they had to trade something for that strategy. By answering as he did, Barr created a problem for the NYT because he underscored that Mueller’s investigation was a coup attempt.

I imagine the left will delete/erase the part of that interview it didn’t like, and all the world will hear is “Trump never had any evidence! He lied! etc.”

I didn’t read past the paywall, but I’m curious what else lurks there.


517 posted on 12/18/2020 6:20:59 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

nice paragraph ya got there, lady
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“If Barr admitted the CIA spied, he would have to say something to address why we didn’t see perp walks. Barr would have to say something like, “I couldn’t move against the pervasive infiltration while America was still asleep; 70% of the gov was bought out by enemies; we had no borders; we had two “private” sovereign Chinese ports; Chinese/UN/other enemies on north and south borders; our military was gutted in terms of morale, infiltration, obsolete hardware and made with intentionally inferior steel ...from China. We would fail to defend ourselves when the Cabal made it’s move if we didn’t wait to restore America’s defenses and erode the battle readiness of our enemies.”...


739 posted on 12/18/2020 10:22:27 PM PST by bitt ( Let every child of the Republic LEARN TO LIVE FOR HIS GOD, his land and Union.)
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To: ransomnote

Often, when a prosecutor or other legal professional uses metaphors like “stayed in their lane,” it’s a way to avoid lying.

The phrase “stayed in their lane” could mean they were on a trip to the 7-11 on south Glebe Rd in Arlington for coffee, and they didn’t swerve or cut anyone off in traffic. It doesn’t tell us anything substantive about Crossfire Hurricane or anything related. It would never be used in a legal document.


1,100 posted on 12/19/2020 10:39:42 AM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: ransomnote

Excellent explanation.

A lot of people will have egg on their faces when Barr comes out swinging.


1,113 posted on 12/19/2020 10:59:30 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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