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Could a Vaccine Be Required Before Taking a Cruise?
Cruise Hive ^ | December 13, 2020 | Robert McGillivray

Posted on 12/13/2020 7:41:18 AM PST by Capt. Tom

Have you thought about getting your vaccine passport in order? Because it could very well be a requirement from the cruise lines that you must be immune to COVD-19 before sailing.

Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings CEO Frank Del Rio said the company already has its lawyers looking at the legal side of requiring guests to show they have been vaccinated with the COVID-19 vaccine.

Cruise Industry Will Have To Build Confidence First Before we see any significant changes in how the cruise industry can operate, they will need to show that cruising can be done safely.

This confidence will need to be instilled in the guests that the cruise lines hope to welcome on board, especially the various government agencies worldwide. Few countries will want to allow cruise ships into their coastal waters unless they are confident in the safety measures implemented.

The vaccine will be a hugely important step for cruise lines, but also the airline industry, and the entire hospitality industry, according to NCLH CEO Frank Del Rio who spoke to Travel Leaders Group during a Zoom call:

“There is talk beginning to emerge from different corners of the travel industry, the airlines as well, of requiring some kind of immunity passport demonstrating that you’ve had the virus or been vaccinated so that you are good to go.”

According to Del Rio, the cruise company will require crew members to be vaccinated no matter what:

“It will certainly be a requirement for the crew, but it’s too early to tell whether we have the legal standing to mandate that you take a vaccine to come onboard — lawyers are looking at it as we speak. We have to build confidence in our customers and among ourselves that it’s safe to cruise.”

Cruise Lines Mandate For Vaccine Not Alone It could very well be that a mandate from Cruise Lines to travel with this ‘immunity passport’ will not stand alone and be a requirement for international travel.

Those wishing to take a cruise abroad and thus fly internationally will need to be vaccinated. This was said last week by Qantas President and Ceo Alan Joyce: “I think that’s going to be a common thing talking to my colleagues in other airlines around the globe.”

The fear is from others in the aviation and cruise industry that a blanket vaccination rule from authorities would do the same to travel as lockdowns, creating more hardship for already struggling industries.

Debts Are Building The most crucial factor is the following: Does the cruise industry have time to wait until 70-80% of the world population is vaccinated. At this time, projections seem to suggest that this would not be the case until July or August at the earliest.

With an industry hemorrhaging money, it would be unlikely many cruise lines will be able to sit still for another 8-9 months without building up huge debts. There is a good chance the cruise industry will not restart in the US due to the issues with the CDC’s framework but would do so in Europe, as Frank Del Rio made clear this week:

“We hope that the pandemic will ease and we can work out our differences with the CDC to start in mid to late March, it’s a long shot, but I want to keep that possibility as long as I see a possibility.

“I think there is a good chance that Europe will be open to cruising in the April to May time frame.”

Vaccine Will Be Paramount For Cruising Whether an immunity passport is implemented, it seems inevitable that there will be a considerable amount of debate on the issue in the upcoming months.

As more and more data becomes available on the vaccine programs, we will hopefully see growing confidence in the vaccine and, consequently, the cruise industry.

Whether you like it or not, the vaccine is and will be a hugely important factor in a successful resumption of cruising worldwide. Whether we will see a full resumption in 2021 is up to the air at the moment, yet we remain hopeful.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Travel
KEYWORDS: travel; vaccine
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To: Capt. Tom

I think anybody that goes on a cruise without all the vaccines is just being silly. With that mass of humanity you know SOMEBODY has SOMETHING. Plus you’re visiting ports of call. I remember when it was a standard part of shipping out of country in the military to get all your shots. I’d see any cruise as the same. There are no viruses that make good souvenirs.


21 posted on 12/13/2020 8:27:20 AM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: Capt. Tom

Already I don’t fly. (TSA)
Now I don’t cruise.


22 posted on 12/13/2020 8:34:17 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Capt. Tom

Bullet... meet foot.


23 posted on 12/13/2020 8:35:21 AM PST by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Since a cruise is not EVER in my future fine by me. The last thing I intend to do


24 posted on 12/13/2020 8:39:01 AM PST by southernindymom ( )
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To: Capt. Tom

Yet another reason to avoid those floating exposure concentrating gilded cages. That people actually pay to be trapped on a big boat for days at a time makes me shake by head. Sure, they are paroled out to various restricted areas. If you get too involved ashore, you get to pay extra. Yay.

Hard pass here.


25 posted on 12/13/2020 8:42:15 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: rktman
Austrian lawmaker teste cola for Covid> Just putting this out there...
26 posted on 12/13/2020 8:46:58 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Don W

I’m gonna see if I can catch one of the quail wandering around in the back yard and see it tests positive. Probably just the bird flu though. :-)


27 posted on 12/13/2020 8:51:31 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Capt. Tom

Since most modes of transportation, air, bus, train, will require a card I suspect cruise lines will as well. Which may well mean a delay in reopening. Though if still sailing at half capacity, it may not be a huge issue by spring. The cost of full capacity may well be a vaccination requirement by most countries. Likely including the US.


28 posted on 12/13/2020 8:51:52 AM PST by SJackson (We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns. Joseph Stalin)
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To: Capt. Tom

Could a cruise ship and a cruise ship company be required for taking a cruise?

How about PASSENGERS?

The cruise ship industry is DEAD!

Who in their right mind would take a cruise NOW!

I wouldn’t go if it were FREE! (been on six of them)


29 posted on 12/13/2020 9:03:58 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Capt. Tom

Don’t even need to read the article: Without liability protection no business is going to allow you to onboard a long distance conveyance without a test.


30 posted on 12/13/2020 9:05:02 AM PST by Vermont Lt (We have entered "Insanity Week." Act accordingly.)
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To: faucetman
I would go on a cruise TODAY and would do so without taking a vaccine.

In fact, I don't want a vaccine. I've spend a good fifty days in Manhattan during this pandemic and haven't been sick once. Almost never wear a mask unless I enter a place of business that requires it - mainly because I don't want to create a hassle for the business owner who's only trying to make an honest living.

Maybe I had this virus already and didn't know it or maybe I'm just immune because I'm so healthy.

31 posted on 12/13/2020 9:07:32 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Orange Man GOOD!)
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To: Capt. Tom

But requiring ID to vot is rayciss doncha know.


32 posted on 12/13/2020 9:09:16 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Capt. Tom

Right now there are temporary locations all along Sunset Blvd close to my house giving out vaccine. Long.long lines. it’s been like this for days.

I could post but don’t have an image host.. they are jammed with people night and day. I know they are requiring shots before flying....and there was massive numbers of Hispanics waiting that makes me think food service workers must get the vaccine.

I’m going to try to get the shots either at Cedars or Keck Hospitals.


33 posted on 12/13/2020 9:11:27 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I Love BULL MARKETS!)
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To: nascarnation

>Tell the boss you’re a Muslim and can’t take the shot until after Rama-lama-ding-dong.

Yeah but every day other than that day is still technically after Rama-lama-ding-dong


34 posted on 12/13/2020 9:16:50 AM PST by nevadapatriot
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To: Capt. Tom

I’m not buying this vaccine story. These often take years to develop. Damn near none are 90% plus effective. And for some things their simply isn’t a vaccine such as the common cold. So we are to believe that 2 companies working independently had the same breakthrough and developed a 90% effective vaccine - within a week of one another - after only 7 or 8 months?

Right.

Anyone notice there’s no patent related argument over which company was first? These are evil pharmaceutical companies only interested in money we’re constantly told.

This isn’t about health. It never was. With a “vaccine” available they can impose vaccine certification cards, health passports or whatever they decide to call them.

Your papers please.

Next might be a vaccine symbol sewed to your coat and then your vaccination number tattooed on your arm.


35 posted on 12/13/2020 9:23:59 AM PST by wny
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To: DugwayDuke

>>There are many of us who will not cruise if masks, social distancing, etc., are prerequisites. Vaccination appears to be the only alternative to those protocols.<<

Ironically, if this goes into effect cruises will be the only place where you can safely go to a buffet, shake someone’s hand, hug a new friend and do all the other personal human interactions we took for granted pre-2020.

I say ironically b/c we all remember cruises were the scariest places to be when the COVID hit.


36 posted on 12/13/2020 9:33:47 AM PST by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: mosaicwolf

>>End Times - Globalism - One World Government - Compliance - Submission to the The False Prophet - Satan.<<

Lighten up Frances. COVID vaccine requirements are no different than TB and other inoculations required to go to many 3rd world countries. If you do not want to do it just don’t go on cruises.


37 posted on 12/13/2020 9:37:27 AM PST by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: CondorFlight

You are SO right!

My job (if I ever get back to it) required me to fly every week.

I bet one of the FIRST things they’ll do is require “proof of vaccination” papers to even board a plane. Of course, they’ll probably issue cards with your personal number and you won’t even be able to complete a booking without it.

They’re going all out on this. Bet the farm on it!


38 posted on 12/13/2020 9:43:45 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: Capt. Tom

“With an industry hemorrhaging money, it would be unlikely many cruise lines will be able to sit still for another 8-9 months without building up huge debts.”

BUT... by all means, cruise lines should alienate the very people that are able to pull them out of their downward spiral...their customers.


39 posted on 12/13/2020 9:51:34 AM PST by moovova
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To: freedumb2003

freedumb2003 wrote: “Ironically, if this goes into effect cruises will be the only place where you can safely go to a buffet, shake someone’s hand, hug a new friend and do all the other personal human interactions we took for granted pre-2020.”

“I say ironically b/c we all remember cruises were the scariest places to be when the COVID hit.”

The cruise ships weren’t nearly as ‘scary’ as the ‘click bait’ media made them out to be.

One social media site for cruising is hard over on keeping these protocols in place even after the vaccines. Lot’s of people who are prime targets for the virus want 100% guarantees of safety. I was placed on probation where I couldn’t post for seven weeks because I did not hew to that narrative.


40 posted on 12/13/2020 9:56:52 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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