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24-year-old Russian woman dead after dropping charging iPhone into bathwater
New York Post ^ | December 10, 2020 | Yaron Steinbuch

Posted on 12/10/2020 10:11:54 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

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61 posted on 12/10/2020 10:44:01 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: dfwgator

In Russia, phones charge YOU!...............


62 posted on 12/10/2020 10:44:10 AM PST by Red Badger ( “The goal of socialism is communism.”... Vladimir Lenin)
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To: nickcarraway

Most likely, there was a fault that connected the mains power to the charging cord. The victim probably reached for the appliance, and pulled it out of the water. Fatal mistake. She was grounded through the pumping via the bath water. When she contacted the mains power, current flowed through her body (probably through her heart) from the faulted device to ground. A ground fault interrupter would have saved her if this was the case, which seems probable.

If her roommate was not grounded, or did something not completely insane, such as removing the power prior to grabbing the electrical appliance in a bathroom, she would not have been harmed.

If you are in the bathtub and an electrical appliance attached to the mains falls in DO NOT TOUCH IT. You are unlikely to receive a shock unless you do. Get out, and kill the power to the circuit before you unplug the appliance. Then thank your lucky stars and never get into that predicament again.


63 posted on 12/10/2020 10:45:01 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: dfwgator

“In Russia Phone Charges You.”

OK...you win.


64 posted on 12/10/2020 10:45:05 AM PST by moovova
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To: eyeamok
Electrocuted by LOW Voltage??

You can't be electrocuted by the low voltage in a charger. But you can be electrocuted by a fault path from the AC line.

I can think of two ways for this to occur. The first is a fault through the insulation in the charger. Frankly, I think that is unlikely, because the chargers are built with two layers of insulation. Another way--the oops way--is if the charger was on an extension cord, and the extension cord fell into the bath with the charger. Then it's the same situation as if a live AC wire was placed directly into the tub. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened.

In modern houses, there are ground fault interrupter outlets near things that can provide an expedited path to ground... like near the kitchen or bathroom sink. There's no way to know if that was the case here.

My bet: The extension cord fell in with the charger.

65 posted on 12/10/2020 10:45:56 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: nickcarraway
24-year-old Russian woman dead after dropping charging iPhone into bathwater

I do not believe the charging system had anything to do with her being electrocuted, unless there was some very unlikely connection between the primary and secondary side of her charging source.

Output power on power supplies is isolated from the primary power source. There is no way electricity can get through the power supply for the charger unless someone deliberately sabotaged it.

66 posted on 12/10/2020 10:50:10 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fai Mao
Because the circuit was blown.

Most breakers are a minimum of 15 amps. 15 amps of current running through that woman's bath water would be hard to do. It wouldn't have tripped because there simply isn't enough conductivity to allow 15 amps of current flow through the bath water, and that's only *IF* someone has sabotaged her charger to allow primary current to get through it.

67 posted on 12/10/2020 10:52:52 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: jjotto

220 -240 V in Russia.

If there’s a physical connection back to the house power, and no functioning ground fault circuit interrupter, there’s a way to electrocute yourself.


68 posted on 12/10/2020 10:53:01 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: DennisR

If this happened in Russia, it’s probably 240. The rest of the world uses 240 as their regular outlets. That 120 vac stuff is just the US and Canada.


69 posted on 12/10/2020 10:54:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: enumerated; nickcarraway

A GFCI outlet would have saved her life.

This gives me a better appreciation of them. Going to check all the bathroom outlets to make sure they’re GFCI. Those near the kitchen sink too.


70 posted on 12/10/2020 10:54:32 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: nickcarraway

If we place the power strip on the floating sandals we can power up on our little table. What a great idea. The sandals won't float away, or a little wave won't wet the power strip and electrocute us all. We have it plugged in the other end and taped to the pool side.

Not even with A GFIC should anyone attempt this.

71 posted on 12/10/2020 10:54:35 AM PST by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: nickcarraway

If we place the power strip on the floating sandals we can power up on our little table. What a great idea. The sandals won't float away, or a little wave won't wet the power strip and electrocute us all. We have it plugged in the other end and taped to the pool side.

Not even with A GFIC should anyone attempt this.

72 posted on 12/10/2020 10:54:35 AM PST by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: Flick Lives
"Standing on a wood floor, or wearing rubber sole shoes makes you far less likely to be killed if you touch an electrical outlet. Your are ungrounded in this condition. "

Half a century ago while working in communications in the Army, my coworkers and I were not required to wear our metal dogtags or the chain holding them. If you are working above an operating piece of equipment to repair it, the tags can suddenly fall out of your shirt and into the equipment, providing an excellent path for electrocution. Rubber soled shoes are very helpful but not sufficient.

It was also standard practice to work with only one hand. The other hand would be firmly in one's pants pocket. This would reduce greatly the chances that a deadly current could flow from arm to arm, stopping the heart.

I can remember frequently finding that my pocketed hand would ache at the end of the day from being in the pocket.

Another thing worth noting is that the marketplace, including china, is more than willing to supply sub-standard USB charging devices that presented both a fire hazard and an electrocution hazard. The typical USB charger uses an isolation transformer which should prevent the AC from appearing on the output of the device and the rest of the charger circuit uses optical isolators to prevent dangerous failures. Unfortunately, the sub-standard chargers allowed metal connections to be too close for long-term reliable operation. I know this because I bought some chargers before checking them out sufficiently. I never used them.

73 posted on 12/10/2020 10:55:02 AM PST by William Tell
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To: HamiltonJay
That might give you a tingle, but it’s not going to kill you...

1000 mA is 1 amp. Anything over 100 mA can stop the heart. You can feel tingling at 1 mA and at 10 mA your muscles can contract to the point you can't let go of whatever may be killing you.

74 posted on 12/10/2020 11:04:34 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

A fault in the charger that allowed one side of the AC mains voltage to appear on the USB ground is the mostly likely failure mode. There are big differences in design and quality between a true Apple charger and some cheap chinese phone charger too.


75 posted on 12/10/2020 11:06:30 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s DC. How is it killing someone?


76 posted on 12/10/2020 11:10:01 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: nickcarraway

5 volts at 1-2 amps wouldn’t even be noticeable. Complete BS


77 posted on 12/10/2020 11:14:01 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t believe a 5-volt / 2 amp DC charger is going to electrocute anyone. There is more to this story.


78 posted on 12/10/2020 11:18:50 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: nickcarraway

Many cheap chargers do not isolate the low voltage side from the line (high voltage) side. I could see this happening in this case.


79 posted on 12/10/2020 11:21:07 AM PST by sonova (That's what I always say sometimes.)
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To: nickcarraway

When you have millions and millions of chances, even if it’s just a .000001% chance, something will happen. Now, if you look into it you might find that in Russia they don’t have a CFGI, she might have been drunk, taking meds, had a pre exiting medical condition... Not trying to make her into the bad guy, just saying if you look into it, you will surely find more to the story. There have been people that have gotten hit by meteorites, stuck multiple times by lightening...

Sometimes your number is up.


80 posted on 12/10/2020 11:22:46 AM PST by Red6
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