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Was the Vaccine always the plan? (vanity)

Posted on 12/07/2020 11:59:09 AM PST by GulfMan

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To: Slyfox

Graph is 100% nothing but misinformation designed to scare people.

Do you work for the media already? If not, you should!


61 posted on 12/07/2020 2:17:04 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

You are kind of a noobie, aren’t you?


62 posted on 12/07/2020 2:18:13 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: Brian Griffin

Headaches, body aches, pain at the injection site; oh no!

Every vaccine has common reactions. Not everyone gets them, they just are commonly seen. The seasonal flu vaccine has plenty of common reactions. The human immune system does some general things when it’s fighting what it thinks is a foreign invader trying to kill it. It fights back with some general defenses (like raising the body temperature) before it can develop the specialized response that creates lasting immunity.


63 posted on 12/07/2020 2:19:26 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: a real Sheila

The vaccine does prevent the spread. The two about to be released are over 90% effective.


64 posted on 12/07/2020 2:20:51 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: mlo

“Why not just take the vaccine? We get vaccinated for other things, ...”

What is this “we” crap?

Not everyone accepts vaccines. Most states have exemptions. You take care of your immune system. I’ll take care of mine. Basic concept in medicine: the right to consent to treatment.


65 posted on 12/07/2020 2:21:01 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Kevin C
Yes, of course that was the plan. And Trump fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

Maybe he fell for it and maybe he didn't. Trump is a political gamer, a chess player, if you will. Somebody like me as president would have said, from the beginning, "This is all a bunch of BS and I refuse to take any serious actions!" and then, consequently, the forces of leftism would have used the media and the medical industry (which they own) to convince the world there WAS a real plague and people were dying, and would have made me look like an incompetent crazy boob, thus rendering me powerless going forward. That's why I' not a politican, and I'm not president.

Trump, on the other hand, knows how to navigate these waters. So he goes along with what he must, with a plan to win in the end.

And, as I recall, Trump was saying things along the lines of "thie virus isn't that big a deal" in the beginning.
66 posted on 12/07/2020 2:21:45 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: mlo
Why not just take the vaccine? We get vaccinated for other things, why not this?

Because polio and tetanus are real diseases. This COVID thing is bullsh!t.
67 posted on 12/07/2020 2:24:37 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“If vaccinated individuals are capable of transmitting infection,” Corey writes, “then anybody who is not vaccinated fares no differently before than after the introduction of a COVID-19 vaccine. With vaccine hesitancy resulting in fewer people agreeing to be vaccinated, we do not yet know whether and when we will be able to markedly reduce the public health implications of COVID-19 and reduce its circulation in the workplace, in close communities and stop super-spreading events.”

https://www.washington.edu/news/2020/12/02/covid-19-vaccines-may-not-prevent-spread-of-virus-so-mask-wearing-other-protections-still-critical/


68 posted on 12/07/2020 2:27:04 PM PST by a real Sheila (WuFlu be gone!)
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To: A Navy Vet
That’s Britain for ya.

Half the population works one way or another in their public health service making almost all the working class dependent on the government.

69 posted on 12/07/2020 2:31:45 PM PST by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: fr_freak
Because polio and tetanus are real diseases.

Actually, we now know that most poliovirus infections are asymptomatic, and flaccid paralysis or death occurs in less than 1% of those infected with poliovirus. Based on current medical knowledge, and freeper antivaxxer statements, it seems clear than if a disease like polio spread today, many would dismiss it as a fake disease. The internet would be filled with crazy conspiracy theories about the virus, the vaccine, the mark of the beast, Bill Gates and the new world order.

70 posted on 12/07/2020 2:50:07 PM PST by ETCM
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To: a real Sheila

Looks like a bunch of speculation and fearmongering to me. As if these vaccines will suddenly work differently from every other vaccine we’ve ever used? The human immune system doesn’t care whether it was vaccinated via a gen 1, gen 2, or gen 3 vaccine. It doesn’t know or care about the difference. Foreign object is a foreign object is a foreign object. And if it’s foreign, I attack it, and if it doesn’t go away immediately, I create a specialized response to attack it.

That specialized response is governed by T-cell and B-cell interactions. The ~10% of B-cells that remain post-infection as Memory B-cells ARE created equal. Whether you had the smallpox vaccine or smallpox itself, or whether you had the COVID vaccine or COVID itself, you have the protection that comes from your body’s RESPONSE to a foreign invader; NOT from the vaccine or disease itself.


71 posted on 12/07/2020 2:54:45 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ETCM

That’s really a self-correcting problem in the long term, if you think about it. Just takes the right bug to come along.


72 posted on 12/07/2020 2:55:35 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: itsahoot
What if you're on Loch Ness and the monster tips your boat over and your wallet sinks to the UNbriny deeps and you have to send away for another VaxProof card and four months later the postman slipped in the foggy street and his bundle of mail is scattered by the wind and the envelope that contains the replacement VaxProof card you sent for flew into the street drain. Horrors! You're already hungry and bills are piling up because without your VaxProof card you were unable to buy food or even leave your house because there is a built in and irrevocable 90 day waiting period before the new one is shipped and you can't call and request another one for another 90 days because the postman who looks an awful lot like an out of work John Cleese denies he's lost anything. Is that what's troubling you Bunky?

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73 posted on 12/07/2020 3:05:45 PM PST by MurrietaMadman (Keep in mind, the Gates of hell shall not prevail against you.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Right now we have religious exemptions. We will fight in the courts on them as long as we can...


74 posted on 12/07/2020 3:19:38 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: blueunicorn6

Ebola is dangerous to all (50% death rate). Why have they not started a vaccine for it? Why use a .2% death rate virus that mainly afflicts 80 year olds?


75 posted on 12/07/2020 3:23:49 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Brian Griffin
1. You haven’t had a reaction yet. Many have. Whistleblower Dr Judy Mikovits and scores of others have exposed many modern cancers are the result of vaccines

2. We don’t trust big Government or big Pharma.

3. My body, my choice
76 posted on 12/07/2020 3:30:34 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: GulfMan
Are you vaccinated from the mumps, measles, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis, the latest flu strain that spread in South America/Australia during last winter (Our summer months), etc...?

If so why?

This website is funny, they support Trump to the hilt, but don't Trust him when he was aggressively pushing/called for basically unlimited funding for a vaccine.
77 posted on 12/07/2020 3:31:54 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: MurrietaMadman
Your worries are over! Just sign up for the VaxProof chip! No more long hungry weeks or dark and cold winters to face alone.

There you go. You not only ask the important question, you have the perfect solution.

They have big plans for us that we may or may not live to see. Did you notice the Supremes ok's today the bathroom solution for our school kids? If you say you are a girl, then you can use the girls restrooms and likely that will have to apply to sports as well. Gorsuch was the fly in the ointment on that one too. We have already lost most of what makes us free and yet the voters are not upset enough to fight back yet.

The Netherlands to day decided to impose penalties on speech if you ridicule or deride transgender souls, fine and a year in jail if you do it privately and up to three years if you do it publicly.

Can't wait to see what the penalties here will be for insulting a politician, unless of course they are Republicans, that would be a patriotic duty.

78 posted on 12/07/2020 3:54:16 PM PST by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: itsahoot
Did you notice the Supremes ok's today the bathroom solution for our school kids?

Your mention of it is the first I've seen.

I hope the 'Big Things' predicted do break our way and measures are put in place to reclaim sanity and all the monsters are caged.

But if President Trump Predicts “Big Things” in Election Fraud Cases This Week turns out to be anything less than a long stride approach to normalcy which includes, for me, the start of the deconstruction of the democrat party and the arrest of the criminal leadership then I expect learning the penalty of insulting a politician wouldn't be too long in coming.

79 posted on 12/07/2020 5:07:56 PM PST by MurrietaMadman (Keep in mind, the Gates of hell shall not prevail against you.)
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To: MurrietaMadman
I expect learning the penalty of insulting a politician wouldn't be too long in coming.

Afraid so, Madman.

80 posted on 12/07/2020 5:53:02 PM PST by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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