Posted on 11/30/2020 1:52:53 PM PST by Brian Griffin
Medical risk exists when a person might get very sick or die from Covid.
Spread risk exists when a person might get or spread Covid.
My Suggested Vaccination Preference Order Groups:
high medical risk - persons of age 65+ living in a nursing home, persons of age 80+/on dialysis/diabetic/HIV+/other immune deficient/normally immune suppressed
substantial medical risk - persons of age 50-64[people 65+ are typically of retirement age and most can self-isolate effectively], persons of age 65+ living in an assisted living establishment or with a person under age 65
modest medical risk - persons of age 65-79 not of "high medical risk" or "substantial medical risk"
low medical risk - not of "modest medical risk" or "substantial medical risk" or "high medical risk"
medical high spread risk - licensed drug prescribers, pharmacy/hospital/nursing home workers
non-medical high spread risk - professional bus drivers, airline plane crew members, persons selected by their department of corrections vaccination program, uniformed persons living in close quarters and their direct supervisors, law enforcement personnel, persons needing to typically physically work outside of an enclosure within ten feet of medical patients or over 24 strangers daily["customer service" people/cashiers/waiters/bartenders/TSA agents], abattoir & packing plant workers, produce workers, local public transit pass holders[7/10/14-day in any NBA/NHL/MLB/NFL metropolitan area, 28/30-day in any area], homeless shelter/"soup kitchen" persons with an organizational identifier
medium spread risk - occupational license holders/gym/bar/restaurant/resort/lodging establishment employed persons not at "high spread risk", professional teachers/drivers/delivery persons, returned merchandise handlers, store butchers
low spread risk - persons not of "high spread risk" or "medium spread risk"
strong economic driver - past frequent flier award fliers, cruise ship crew member[regardless of citizenship], federal income tax filers with 2019 "total income" income over $50,000/year/filer
When Covid is spreading fast, slowing its spread is probably most important(1&2).
My proposed preference order is:
1. hospital Covid stress/overload area
A. medical high spread risk
B. non-medical high spread risk
C. medium spread risk
2. recent 5% or greater Covid test positivity rate area
A. medical high spread risk
B. non-medical high spread risk
C. medium spread risk
3. other area
A. medical high spread risk
B. non-medical high spread risk
C. substantial medical risk
D. modest medical risk
E. high medical risk
F. medium spread risk
G. strong economic driver
H. low spread risk, low medical risk
I. those persons due for a second dose
II. persons having exhausted unemployment benefits
III. business license holders
IV. employed persons
V. valid passport/passport card holders
VI. others
I am not sure if medical risk people (3)(C-E) should have higher preference than medium spread risk people(3)(F) and strong economic drivers(3)(G). Perhaps medical risk people should simply be consistently assigned different vaccination sites.
Preference Order Related Rules:
1. Groups may be combined as follows by state level (or vaccination administrator) authority:
A. low risk groups
B. substantial medical risk, high medical risk groups
C. medium spread risk, strong economic driver groups
D. non-medical high spread risk, medium spread risk groups
E. appropriate groups at any vaccination site
2. Preference order should be appropriately waived to minimize wastage of vaccine supplies
3. Preference order may be appropriately waived to prevent squandering of licensed vaccine professional administrator time
4. Preference order is waived across state lines when not in violation of a specific CDC order
[A state with good Covid control can normally administer its own anti-Covid vaccine supplies even if a neighboring state has overstressed hospitals.]
5. Preference order may be appropriately waived within a state when not in violation of a specific CDC order by any applicable state department of health order
6. Any person who falls into two spread risk groups or two medical risk groups shall have the preference order of the higher level risk group.
7. Vaccine administration process safety shall take priority over direct enforcement of precedence order [better to just give a cheater/worrywart a shot than to argue with them]
8. A licensed prescriber can write a prescription valid in-state to regroup any patient (from say modest medical risk to substantial medical risk)
Very Preliminary Thoughts on Vaccination Preference Order Methods:
high medical risk persons - specifically invited to participate, vaccinated on site
substantial medical risk - invited to be vaccinated on say weekends
modest medical risk - invited to be vaccinated on say weekdays
medical high spread risk - vaccinated on site or specifically invited to participate
non-medical high spread risk - typically will be vaccinated on site or invited to participate
medium spread risk - invited to participate
strong economic driver - specifically invited to participate
low spread risk - vaccinated via media outreach
low medical risk - vaccinated via media outreach
Invitations to persons might take the form of site and date specific color flag stripe patterns displayable on mobile phones or six-digit personal numeric codes.
Invitations might also be made at public transit facilities and via employers and organizations whom might be given site and date specific color flag stripe pattern printouts for eligible people.
Wouldn’t it be easier, cheaper and more effective to just give those that catch it some Ivermectin or HCQ and ZINC/AZT/Vitamin D??? The Ivermectin study I read the other day showed like a 94% efficacy rate across the board, much better than HCQ at 50%-84%.
As a type 1 diabetic, count me out of any distribution scheme. I have no desire to be in the first people taking this vaccine. I wish nothing but success to those who choose to take this vaccine, but it is not for me. I don’t even get a flu shot.
No, no thank you.
Prisoners first - high density, difficult to isolate, and a good population for real-world testing. Select military units next.
I don't want it, so I'm fine getting skipped.
But, its sad to see that Prisoners will get it before those who want it.
Politicians first. If the vaccine fails, the nation is safe.
Ain’t getting it. Got a flu shot 21 years ago. Still sick with a chronic form of GB. (Google it).
There may be shots involved....but not into me.
I decline.
“Wouldn’t it be easier, cheaper and more effective to just give those that catch it some...”
We don’t have 3,000 Covid deaths a day in the USA because doctors know less medicine than the average blogger.
Getting vaccines to key people efficiently is what we need to do as a nation.
Targeting vaccinations is like targeting artillery - you’ve got to pick the best targets.
I’ve been a Type I for 40 years (and have gotten a flu shot annually since an infection spread throughout my entire extended family 17 years ago and made us all miserable, without having caught it since), and I will assuredly get the vaccine. Still, I like Brian’s prioritization scheme. I don’t deserve it more than others higher than I on his list, especially those at “high spread risk.” That’s a good way to organize it. I think that spread risk is the most important consideration, and I don’t see a need to distinguish between medical and other high-risk people.
Having said that, I hope and think that distribution is going to turn out better than many expect. I predict I will get the first shot no later than the end of January.
I won’t decline, but I’ll take some time before getting my shots.
The system has to allow for voluntarily delayed take-up.
You would fall under 3(E) of my scheme.
The sickest may not be able to withstand what is just a slightly tested product, so I don’t recommend they get it first.
People likely to die from Covid have learned to keep themselves safe.
There is no reason at all to have a vaccine for something nearly completely safe when Hydroxychloroquine has been available since 1955, and prescribed by Doctors since 1965.
“We don’t have 3,000 Covid deaths a day in the USA because doctors know less medicine than the average blogger.”
3000? Lol. Nice try.
Actually, the ego and arrogance of the conventional medical profession is what keeps the general population (who are strangely not encouraged to learn about boosting their own immune system) fat, prediabetic/diabetic, over-vaccinated and pre-disposed to cv19 due to multiple co-morbidities.
The fact that conventional MDs for the most part refuse to help their patients boost natural immunity is the reason why lay people need to get the word out. We don’t claim to be MDs, but clearly someone needs to do this.
Early stage treatment is zinc plus ionophore OR megadose D3, A and iodine for 4 days. Plus a few other things.
Late stage treatment is MATH+ therapy, which has had a 98-100% success rate. I will post links later.
There is no pandemic. Most conventional medical people are NOT heroes, sorry. Trump probably saved hundreds of thousands of lives by promoting zinc and HCQ.
Fauxci’s advice that NOTHING should be done until the patient is on supplemental oxygen is tantamount to murder.
Here’s an idea:
Call back in ten years after the vaccines demonstrate that they’re safer than the WuFlu.
In other words, they want to kill off old people before they can use the Medicare and Social Security money taken from them ...
maybe more doctors should actually read the studies themselves like I did??
https://osf.io/wx3zn/
https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/
there is a lot of information out there if you disregard everything any American presstitute or government official says first.
What’s the point of this vanity?
Is it more than your opinion of who should go first?
And FWIW, I’m not getting it, whatever anyone tells me about their perception of my *risk*.
I’m not taking it, period.
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